The positives from last night Discuss

[Dando]

The defenders were Stewart, Gorkss, Connolly & Hill. I think he did play RB because he was replaced at half time by Ramage.

if so- that is a laughable decision - suprised we didnt lose by more. May as well stick Cerny up front

[Hertford Hoop]

if so- that is a laughable decision - suprised we didnt lose by more. May as well stick Cerny up front

You never know...be careful what you wish for :waaaht:

Teflon and Simpson

[Dando]

he couldnt be any worse

[qblockpete]

Postives

The players did a little pre-kick off cuddle with each other to show unity to the fans, it went down hill within a minute of that.

[superhoop67]

Wasn't as cold as Charlton last Boxing Day

[pkloft]

the only positive from last night result was.............i had Forest (nailed on) in an accumulator which a need 2 from tonight results to come up for a nice little pick up

[kingo]

Only positives are we are not Palace or even Bristol City. Someone said we did improve towards the end of the game (probably tongue in cheek) and we will not have to play a very inform Forest again but others around us will. Sad, sad night and I am not looking forward to Saturday at all.

[ollyhoops]

What about Hill? any positive signs from him? Could he be the left back we've been looking for...?

[lincoln ranger]

My take on last night from the home end!

Stewart didn't play right back, Connolly started there and played there the whole of the 1st half. When Damage came on he went to right back, Stewart was subbed and Connolly switched to Centre back.
Positives? Erm...NONE!
Why have we signed a 3rd/4th choice Wolves keeper who just wants to bang it 60 yards up the field everytime, even when he's got time and the full backs are free for a simple outlet pass? Great tactics? Yeah hoof it long to our huge target man? Simpson? Who is about '5 6' and is up front on his own! What a load of old tosh! Who the hell is coaching these so called professionals?
We were awfull last night. I watched from one of the ****** Forest supporting stands (Forest mate of mine got tickets, and got me one for their end!) and everytime the goals went in I was the only 1 with my head in my hands sitting down. I was nearly in tears after the 3rd taking such a ribbing from my mate, it really hurts to watch us play so poorly with such a lack of heart, desire and effort.
I left my seat to get a beer on about 35 mins (was that just after the 3rd went in, the penalty?) I couldn't stand it anymore, totally embarrassing. I think we had 1 shot on goal the whole of the 1st half, from Taarabt I think it was, but that was straight at Camp. We did improve slightly in the second half, and Camp did make a couple of decent saves, but you could tell Forest had taken their foot off the pedal somewhat. The chants of '1/2 more goal/s and we're top of the league' were so painfull when we were 4 and 5 down.
Overall thoughts from last night :
Ikeme is toilet, doesn't want to play ball on the deck, and did he actually make any saves?
Connolly and Gorkks must, repeat MUST play as central defenders, Connolly is not a right back and is wasted there, unless we sign a real nasty b*stard of a centre half, someone like Big Dan?
Stewart is simply not good enough, as is Damage.
Hill Didn't look up to scratch to me, but don't want to be too harsh on him for a first game, but when he had time on the ball at one point, then got closed down by a Forest player, he just panicked and kicked the ball out of play!
Buzsacky. What has happened to the 'white Pele'? He is completely off his game at the moment, very worrying.
Faurlin is not a wide left midfielder, why play him there? He is the best passer of the ball in the team he must play in central midfield, he is wasted out wide.
Legs and Quashie in central midfield just did not work, and I have to say, Legs was awfull. He kept giving possession away time and time again. He cannot play midfield, get him in at right back. I'm sorry but he must be stripped of the captaincy too, he did not show any leadership out on that pitch last night at all. His head kept dropping, etc. That is something you don't expect from your skipper. He is there to encourage, inspire and get the best out of the other players on the park. What must the other players think when they see the captains head drop when 4 or 5 down? Your captain you would think would also be the first name on the team sheet, is Legs that? Absolutely not. You can't have your club captain dropped on the bench, but that is where he is heading.
Taarabt, showed some good touches, and work rate, but you can tell he is getting very p*ssed off with what is happening out there at the moment. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him head back to Spurs soon.
And finally Simpson. Good little player, but felt sorry for the lad last night, just had no support when going forward. And when our keeper was smashing the ball long all night to him to try and win a header against that man mountain Morgan, well it just wasn't going to happen.
Ephraim did ok when he came on, showed some bright touches, but again can't comment too much cos we offered little going forward.
Vine also, but seemed non existant.
So there it is. In a nutshell dire.
We need a new keeper, definitely a good attacking footballing right back, a nasty horrible take no prisoners centre half, and 2 decent proven centre forwards who can score goals.
Forget the play offs, we need to concentrate on avoiding relegation!

[scarface]

Positives i didn't go and didn't get a season ticket!!

[vanhoop]

positives!!!!!! i got myself a lovely red nose

[conners]

Wrong. Stewart was CB.

At half time, Connolly switched to CB and Ramage came on at RB and was torn apart on a number of occasions.

Can I also go on record as saying i am not part of this Connolly love in. He made a number of mistakes last night and was playing some very silly balls across his own penalty area.

[stanistheman]

Fair point Lincoln and a good summary.

I was only specualating at what position Stewart played.

As for your comments about Leigertwood and Faurlin.

I have said earlier, that Leigertwood is not a central midfielder and that Faurlin should have played there alongside Quashie. If he had, you might have seen QPR keep possession better and create chances. Leigertwood should also be stripped of the captaincy. I would even have preferred if the club had sold him, rather than reward him with a longer deal and a pay rise.

Buzsaky I presume, played on the right. I would rather he played in the middle just behind Simpson. with Taarabt and Ephraim on the wings.

[swanleyhoop]

Fair point Lincoln and a good summary.

I was only specualating at what position Stewart played.

As for your comments about Leigertwood and Faurlin.

I have said earlier, that Leigertwood is not a central midfielder and that Faurlin should have played there alongside Quashie. If he had, you might have seen QPR keep possession better and create chances. Leigertwood should also be stripped of the captaincy. I would even have preferred if the club had sold him, rather than reward him with a longer deal and a pay rise.

Buzsaky I presume, played on the right. I would rather he played in the middle just behind Simpson. with Taarabt and Ephraim on the wings.

100% agree with this.
How ANYONE can say that Legs should be on the pitch, let alone captain, is, and always has been, a mystery to me
Buzsaky -- well, what has happened there?
Quashie was one of the few players to come out of the debarcle with any credit -- and with FAURLIN alongside him it could work.
I agree, Ephraim and Taarabt on the wings, or Cook instead of one of them when fit.
There were a few positives, and pointers as to what will work and what won't but I doubt Harford will (or will be allowed to?) act upon them.

Still miserable after last night though -- Satnav kept trying to send us down a CLOSED A46 so we went round Leicester 3 times, and my Mars bar melted where hubby had put it in front of the speedometer.
:very_sad:

[ollyhoops]

At least Harford can see the problem with the side now, so I guess only better things can come.

What about Gorkks, any positives about him?? He was at one stage our best defender