Even At Our Peak..When Crowds Were UP

[Factamondo]

[Romford Hoop]

ive said it before.....we never have and never will attract big crowds......18500 at loftus rd would be based on there being 3000+ away fans....we didnt even sell out for the play off final or semi final home leg.....in 1982 spurs accounted for 72,000 0f the gate at wembley.....the sooner we accept where we are is where we are the better!

We sold out at Oldham and the sold out home ends for 2nd leg,we sold nearly 50000 tickets for Oxford match and 41,000 for Spurs replay cup final.

I take your point that we are a smallish club,however all clubs with new stadiums have increased gate massively if successful,Fulham now average 23000+ and for years had gates of 5,000.

Loftus Road as a stadium is a dump and we will never move on until it is improved or we move.

Over 5500 ticket at LR have restricted views,coupled with no leg room and overpriced tickets our crowds are not to bad.

[Mr Lofty]

Anyone with half a brain would have realised when they took over the club the one thing that QPR needed was stability. Above all else. It should be common sense that the one thing all successful football clubs have it is stability. this should have been the most important criteria for the new board.

What has happened has been so far removed from this objective it is bordering on insane. This hasnt happened and you cannot blame anyone apart from the people making the appointments and decsions.

Dont give me all this nonsense that FB has only sacked 1 or 2 and how can you blame him for JM. JM was a poor, poor, poor appointment. When I say poor I mean a massive risk. Not the sort of appointment from a club craving stability at a very crucial time. He couldnt handle the job quite obviously.

I for one would be delighted if FB goes away. Like the article in the Ealing Gaz said "He will never understand". :anger:

What happens if he does? Who cares, its better than a slow death and at least we know where we are. Whats the point?

[qblockpete]

Mr Lofty, we were all sold into the dream when they took over. Don't think any fan thought "we are going to be mid-table for the next 3 years"

Reality is, the state of the club is shocking from a PR point of view, been run badly and the idea of bringing in a category system where it defines you by class, (not sure it was their aim), is also split the fan-base. We have changed managers (still maintain you cannot blame them for De canio or magilton) and now the place is depressing like watching a wake on a Saturday.

Saying that, its a results business and a few good results change supporters feelings. You only have to go back 3 months where most if not all fans were happy. We need to get back to that and start treating fans with a bit of respect. It cannot be a us and them attitude, which it is at the moment

[Mr Lofty]

Mr Lofty, we were all sold into the dream when they took over. Don't think any fan thought "we are going to be mid-table for the next 3 years"

Reality is, the state of the club is shocking from a PR point of view, been run badly and the idea of bringing in a category system where it defines you by class, (not sure it was their aim), is also split the fan-base. We have changed managers (still maintain you cannot blame them for De canio or magilton) and now the place is depressing like watching a wake on a Saturday.

Saying that, its a results business and a few good results change supporters feelings. You only have to go back 3 months where most if not all fans were happy. We need to get back to that and start treating fans with a bit of respect. It cannot be a us and them attitude, which it is at the moment

I think we all agree with that. Hand on heart can you really see anything changing soon?

[Factamondo]

qpr as a club have always failed miserably on the marketing side.....id offer half season tickets for £125 for the rest of the season and next season offer existing season ticket holders renewals at half this seasons price!

[Mr Lofty]

The day FB first mentioned '£20' was the day he lost me. From that one comment you could understand this guy hasnt got a clue. I would campare it to 'If they have no bread let them eat cake'

Not a clue.

[qblockpete]

I can see things changing soon, but not for the next 2 months at least

I can see fans getting more irate and whilst protests are talked about now, that will inevitably gain momentum. I know many think the season is over now, but thats a vast majority of the messageboard community and you won't get fans who turn up to watch QPR on a Saturday take part just yet, come April if/when its mathematically impossible, I can see protests will happen and its not going to be nice.

Patience is waining and even the most passionate fan feels like giving up and fans will naturally re-tailate, its our club end of the day.

What awaits around the corner, is anyone;s guess. I just don;t know what kind of debt we will be saddled with if Flavio walked and I don't see (i would like them to) the mittals being our knights in shining armour.

Just my opinion of course.

[Factamondo]

the kumars will be offski as soon as andy warhol jnr grants their indian g rand prix!!!

[qblockpete]

Flavio is the common day Gerald Ratner

All the other stuff he said got totally dismissed, and he put his foot in it big time. I suspect we are not going to go anywhere whilst he stays in charge. we all hope he proves us wrong, but the fan base is so unhappy its unreal.

[Factamondo]

if flabbio walked away i for one would go more often!

[Frode]

If Charlton could do it, so can we.
They averaged 10000 in division 1 back in the 90's
The season they got relegated from the Prem they had an average of 26000.
We are a bigger club with more history

[qblockpete]

Fulham are the finest example.

4,000 early eighties
6,000 nineties

now 24,000

Trouble is like Chelsea, they all say they are born and breed Fulham

[stan_bowles]

Maybe the potential new US owners will be willing to invest in the squad.Unlike Flavio who thinks promotion can be achieved on a shoestring outlay.

[pkloft]

the bottom line is

Flav & Co have messed up big time,

the thought they could put a lick of paint around the stadium whilst spending absolute millions on revamping the hospitality areas for his own gain using the clubs money (because lets not kid ourselves here, they are loans) (no pun intended)

we've wasted millions again on paying off managers & on wasted players, sooner or later he's got to say "hold on a minute where's all these millions going"

did Flav bring in players like Borrowdale Ramage Cerny Hall Aggy (who are not good enough) NO, of course he didn't

i bet there's a nice little packet wasted just on those 5 alone !!!

sooner or later Flav must turn round & say, the spending (not on fees of course) has got to stop..................and that time is NOW :devil:

i personally think if the heat gets too much, the axe will swing very, very soon