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Posted by Awightmush on Reports site, covers a lot of points discussed on this site over the post few weeks
Paladini buys a large share in club for £650k, which he obtains through a mortgage. He was previously a bankrupt, meaning today he would fail a fit and proper persons test.
He never played proffessional football, yet he trys to convince people he did.
the last paragraph says it all really. Funny that even then the man was up to his neck in crooked accusations. Accusations that have and never will go away.
He owned a restaurant in the midlands that went bust, during this time he helped by being a waiter. He now says its racism calling him a waiter. What is it when you call QPR fans all idiots, under oath in court?
Ok the court case...pointless going through it all really, im sure the link to traceys transcript is still around, [QPR Report Edit: Tracy's Trial Report - http://www.alfretontownfc.com/qprcourttrial.pdf ] as are the press reports. so the real basics...paladini accuses that a gang of armed men burst into the boardroom and force him to resign..opinions about the reality of that are now pointless because history will show... all the accused were unconditionally found not guilty, no guns were ever found, despite intensive searches by the police. Gianni Paladini was accused of telling over 70 lies in court under oath, he was ridiculed by a QC and was intimated to be a Billy Liar character within the media.
Only one person came away from the trial in disgrace, but instead of being banned from the ground he carried on regardless. Paladinis followers always like to bring the court case up, scott jones has even suggested the police got it wrong, the jury, the judge etc...yet when really pushed about the trial and hit with facts they soon shut up. Why ? because their man was so unreliable he was a laughing stock, nearly every lie under oath was shot down by the defence, he was a broken witness, a broken sad man, who to be fair did well to bounce back in any capacity.
WATRBS. a group of fans some within the media, gathered together to form a sort of militia for GP. Its what happens in Italy, a group of fans protect and drum up support for their man. in return he looks after them, free tickets, info, drinks, business help etc....now is that whats happening at QPR ? after all who had ever heard of these people before the court case ? who saw them at grounds up and down the country in the 70s 80s and 90s ? not me, and according to nearly all fans sites including their own, very few did.
Every time someone accuses GP of any inpropriety including the press, they gather together and try to trash all the accusers, one recently even libeled himself trying to blame Mark Devlin for the clubs debts and assorted troubles. Where did this come from ? surely a local councillor has more important work than to criticise someone he knows nothing about? indeed the lies are still on view on that site, they are libelous trash yet despite the councillors retraction watrbs continue to insinuate. Why ? why would you defend a known liar ?
Pete this week alone has said, paladini is in charge of team affairs, players, signings contracts etc
Yet in the same week he says briatore does the hiring and firing and paladini has no say in who comes and goes...its not what Paul Hart said.
Pete asks where is the evidence paladini was an agent;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footbal....sts-agent. html
so okay there it is.
Now there are "Accusations" this week that paladini is creaming £30k off of every single player deal.. now if true thats a lot of dough. So is it true? I guess until its proven in writing we have to make our own minds up. Most clubs pay a signing on fee, the agent is paid through the player, £30k is about the going rate for a one off agents payment in the low profile deals, and those of youth players and pay in installment deals (this from a Eufa agent friend)...so who to believe, a web site poster from watrbs, an anti paladini man or paladini and his followers (remember the lies under oath) ?
The sackings have been ridiculous, as have the supporters who were picked out on CCTV and warned off. Those that were approached by hired thugs outside the ground and warned to stay away. I witnessed one incident in the blue and white club one saturday, where the police had to intervene and they ended up nicking the thugs. other long term rangers fans had threatening phone calls that were traced back to the phones at loftus Road. Now was this down to GP ? I really dont know, but he was the chairman, the man in charge, the man who ultimately made the decisions.
He made the decision to sue supporters, to threaten Dave Thomas with legal action for a Kick up the Rs arcticle. Then when dave refused to back down, what ? exactly... nothing.? the same when he threatened to sue the Evening Standard....still waiting Gianni.
The take over... im sorry nobody believes you, we would not have gone belly up, david davies said that previously (even before Paladini threatened to shoot him...oops with what ? a Gun ? )
truth is there were other offers on the table, even GP admitted that, its just that they would nt gaurantee him employment, i mean who would ? Oh yeah his Italian friend Briatore, the man that thought he was buying a bistro (nice work Gianni) maybe he thought GP wanted a job as a waiter ? who knows ? i mean he put a restaurant in did nt he.
So are we sailing in safe waters? as GP would say.
I E Mailed a top sports reporter yesterday and he said if Briatore walked away tommorrow, rangers would be relegated 5 divisions, and was that what we really wanted?
5 divisions ? ****** hell, some safe sailing...so why would that happen then ? Can only mean the debts have never been paid, that we are running at a continual loss, that we are being completely mis managed, that those in charge are simply playing games, that money is going missing ? i dont know, im not a businessman but it all smells a bit fishy to me.
Then yesterday we had pete saying paladini is about to sign a 3 year contract, then a few hours later said hes leaving in 18 months...not another pay off? 18 months paid up ? surely not ?
How can a club in so much financial mess stand paladini an interest free loan for a £140k ?
Who the hell will take the responsibility for bringing Briatore in ? if this press guy is correct, and he assures me this is a fact, serious questions need to be asked, dont you think ?
A few days before paul hart was sacked apparently a team of auditors visited loftus road and harlington. at the same time Gp lost it outside the ground in front of fans, screaming about being hated etc.. a man under pressure ? i dont know about loftus road, well i do but cant prove it, harlington though, i wasx told by a player that the auditors had been in and were with a "white faced GP" (the players name? absolutely no chance, no one would).
i read that we may have Americans interested in buying Briatore out ? so maybe the auditors are to do with that ? maybe Briatore just wants to see how much money hes losing and more importantly where its going ?
so okay truths is where we started... most people will make their own minds up,m and of course my post is only touching the surface, maybe some others can fill in the rest of the Paladini history ?
so as finney says somewhere above those that back GP, its time to put the truth up or shut up. it will of course be difficult for you,as your man is a known fabricator, but give it a go.
Finally one thing "If Briatore leaves QPR will be relegated 5 divisions" WHY WHY WHY luton were relegated one plus a 30 point deduction, but that was mainly for having done crooked deals...5 divisions, ****** hell thats some drop, what the hell could they have on us ?
Paladini buys a large share in club for £650k, which he obtains through a mortgage. He was previously a bankrupt, meaning today he would fail a fit and proper persons test.
He never played proffessional football, yet he trys to convince people he did.
the last paragraph says it all really. Funny that even then the man was up to his neck in crooked accusations. Accusations that have and never will go away.
He owned a restaurant in the midlands that went bust, during this time he helped by being a waiter. He now says its racism calling him a waiter. What is it when you call QPR fans all idiots, under oath in court?
Ok the court case...pointless going through it all really, im sure the link to traceys transcript is still around, [QPR Report Edit: Tracy's Trial Report - http://www.alfretontownfc.com/qprcourttrial.pdf ] as are the press reports. so the real basics...paladini accuses that a gang of armed men burst into the boardroom and force him to resign..opinions about the reality of that are now pointless because history will show... all the accused were unconditionally found not guilty, no guns were ever found, despite intensive searches by the police. Gianni Paladini was accused of telling over 70 lies in court under oath, he was ridiculed by a QC and was intimated to be a Billy Liar character within the media.
Only one person came away from the trial in disgrace, but instead of being banned from the ground he carried on regardless. Paladinis followers always like to bring the court case up, scott jones has even suggested the police got it wrong, the jury, the judge etc...yet when really pushed about the trial and hit with facts they soon shut up. Why ? because their man was so unreliable he was a laughing stock, nearly every lie under oath was shot down by the defence, he was a broken witness, a broken sad man, who to be fair did well to bounce back in any capacity.
WATRBS. a group of fans some within the media, gathered together to form a sort of militia for GP. Its what happens in Italy, a group of fans protect and drum up support for their man. in return he looks after them, free tickets, info, drinks, business help etc....now is that whats happening at QPR ? after all who had ever heard of these people before the court case ? who saw them at grounds up and down the country in the 70s 80s and 90s ? not me, and according to nearly all fans sites including their own, very few did.
Every time someone accuses GP of any inpropriety including the press, they gather together and try to trash all the accusers, one recently even libeled himself trying to blame Mark Devlin for the clubs debts and assorted troubles. Where did this come from ? surely a local councillor has more important work than to criticise someone he knows nothing about? indeed the lies are still on view on that site, they are libelous trash yet despite the councillors retraction watrbs continue to insinuate. Why ? why would you defend a known liar ?
Pete this week alone has said, paladini is in charge of team affairs, players, signings contracts etc
Yet in the same week he says briatore does the hiring and firing and paladini has no say in who comes and goes...its not what Paul Hart said.
Pete asks where is the evidence paladini was an agent;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footbal....sts-agent. html
so okay there it is.
Now there are "Accusations" this week that paladini is creaming £30k off of every single player deal.. now if true thats a lot of dough. So is it true? I guess until its proven in writing we have to make our own minds up. Most clubs pay a signing on fee, the agent is paid through the player, £30k is about the going rate for a one off agents payment in the low profile deals, and those of youth players and pay in installment deals (this from a Eufa agent friend)...so who to believe, a web site poster from watrbs, an anti paladini man or paladini and his followers (remember the lies under oath) ?
The sackings have been ridiculous, as have the supporters who were picked out on CCTV and warned off. Those that were approached by hired thugs outside the ground and warned to stay away. I witnessed one incident in the blue and white club one saturday, where the police had to intervene and they ended up nicking the thugs. other long term rangers fans had threatening phone calls that were traced back to the phones at loftus Road. Now was this down to GP ? I really dont know, but he was the chairman, the man in charge, the man who ultimately made the decisions.
He made the decision to sue supporters, to threaten Dave Thomas with legal action for a Kick up the Rs arcticle. Then when dave refused to back down, what ? exactly... nothing.? the same when he threatened to sue the Evening Standard....still waiting Gianni.
The take over... im sorry nobody believes you, we would not have gone belly up, david davies said that previously (even before Paladini threatened to shoot him...oops with what ? a Gun ? )
truth is there were other offers on the table, even GP admitted that, its just that they would nt gaurantee him employment, i mean who would ? Oh yeah his Italian friend Briatore, the man that thought he was buying a bistro (nice work Gianni) maybe he thought GP wanted a job as a waiter ? who knows ? i mean he put a restaurant in did nt he.
So are we sailing in safe waters? as GP would say.
I E Mailed a top sports reporter yesterday and he said if Briatore walked away tommorrow, rangers would be relegated 5 divisions, and was that what we really wanted?
5 divisions ? ****** hell, some safe sailing...so why would that happen then ? Can only mean the debts have never been paid, that we are running at a continual loss, that we are being completely mis managed, that those in charge are simply playing games, that money is going missing ? i dont know, im not a businessman but it all smells a bit fishy to me.
Then yesterday we had pete saying paladini is about to sign a 3 year contract, then a few hours later said hes leaving in 18 months...not another pay off? 18 months paid up ? surely not ?
How can a club in so much financial mess stand paladini an interest free loan for a £140k ?
Who the hell will take the responsibility for bringing Briatore in ? if this press guy is correct, and he assures me this is a fact, serious questions need to be asked, dont you think ?
A few days before paul hart was sacked apparently a team of auditors visited loftus road and harlington. at the same time Gp lost it outside the ground in front of fans, screaming about being hated etc.. a man under pressure ? i dont know about loftus road, well i do but cant prove it, harlington though, i wasx told by a player that the auditors had been in and were with a "white faced GP" (the players name? absolutely no chance, no one would).
i read that we may have Americans interested in buying Briatore out ? so maybe the auditors are to do with that ? maybe Briatore just wants to see how much money hes losing and more importantly where its going ?
so okay truths is where we started... most people will make their own minds up,m and of course my post is only touching the surface, maybe some others can fill in the rest of the Paladini history ?
so as finney says somewhere above those that back GP, its time to put the truth up or shut up. it will of course be difficult for you,as your man is a known fabricator, but give it a go.
Finally one thing "If Briatore leaves QPR will be relegated 5 divisions" WHY WHY WHY luton were relegated one plus a 30 point deduction, but that was mainly for having done crooked deals...5 divisions, ****** hell thats some drop, what the hell could they have on us ?
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