Positives about paladini

[MYU]

Listen to the radio show from last week and you will hear more about what Pete thinks of a DOF.

Give me a chance to update it as I've been told the QPR chat has been lost.

I don't think any of us want a DOF at this club.

[Hoopaman]

I am so bored of this debate but this is irresistable.

"Apart from saving the club"!!!? I am guessing that that little feat is to be considered sooooo yesterday it doesn't count??

As for what what he does on a day to day basis I couldn't tell you but to be honest - and here's a novelty - I couldn't care less. Though it seems some on this boatrd care very much. And about little else. A lack of perfection (and not only in relation to Paladini but pretty much everything else) seems to be a fatal flaw for some Rangers fans on here. We were always so lucky with managers and owners before weren't we? ...Quite.

As a point of detail for the list, maintaining kids under 8 getting in for free, and concessions on under 16s, OAPs etc seems pretty OK by me. Fair play and well done I say.

Not for the first time recently this is getting so Month Python-esque you couldn';t make it up if you tried!!. Now we have the equivalent of "what have the romans done for us (.... apart from the roads..... and the water....etc) " sketch. Quality. Of course I expect when the list of Paladinis doings here is finished it will get about as much impartical assessment as the roman contribution in the film did...............

Apols to any who haven;t seen the Life of Brian as the above will make no sense whatsoever. But you will now have a feeling like I have when I open all these Paladini threads.

Perhaps I will be proved wrong and at the end of this some will change their minds. Or perhaps not.

P>S - the thread doesn't ask what the relative merits of a DoF are or are not. It asked and has receioved responses about the man in the post. The general DoF thing would be one debate. Possibly a more productive one. Certainly a less jaundiced one. But that isn';t what is going on here and we all know it.

Whats stopping in you starting a thread about it? its something that needs discussing.

[Quaz]

Okay I will bite

1) Works For A Boss Like Flavio
2) Within days of taking over the club, was threatened.. (no dispute on that, even though the strength of it is)
3) Had to have a bullet proof vest on police advice
4) Always paid staff and players, even though we were probably worse of than Portsmouth are right now.
5) Had a massive loan to pay off annually
6) Plenty of people against him because he was either Italian or not seen as a QPR fan, because he had interest in Port Vale.
7) Had to wheel and deal just to keep us afloat
8) Despite messageboard lies and smears still managed to maintain a football club
9) Kept the season ticket prices as low as possible
10) The only person who will get players to events organised by the LSA and other associations
11) Brought in investors on every level to progress this club
12) Any young child wanting to look around the ground or meet players, people who want signed stuff for charity, he would be at the forefront of it
13) Working from about 7am in the morning to 10pm everday for QPR, meaning he spends no time with his wife and family
14) Good at saving money for the club, in finding clauses in contracts as in the cases of Buzsacky, Gorkss and others
15) Despite having every thing scrutinised, never been accused by the football league, the current board for any wrong doings in the transfer markets, which is a good thing because he has to contend with innuendo and rumours about 30k for players, under audit, when it really is really just a smear campaign

A defence?? A true indication??

The usual suspects won't budge, so really not worth all this debate to be hinest, we have a football club to support.

good post mate apart from point 6...the wording seems to imply that some rangers supporters are rascist........

[stanley75]

Hoopaman (nice avatar by the way - where did that pic come from looks like FB is having a rant at GP which would make him WATRB fodder). Thanks for the invitation. But I am not not a message board wallah usually, and just drop into them from time to time to see what other rangers fans are saying about events. (Been lots of reasons to drop in recently!)

I agree the DoF thing is an interesting debate (not one we could influence the outcome of but interesting nonetheless) but I have sort of lost the will to live with this endless paladini, paladini, pal-a-******-dini obsession and can't see you could have the debate without it getting hijacked. Pretty much every thread on here is ending on the same topic. I don't have the time or heart to engage. But if you give it a go, I promise I for one will be constructive and let's see!!!

[Hoopaman]

[QUOTE=stanley75;241685]Hoopaman (nice avatar by the way - where did that pic come from looks like FB is having a rant at GP which would make him WATRB fodder). Thanks for the invitation. But I am not not a message board wallah usually, and just drop into them from time to time to see what other rangers fans are saying about events. (Been lots of reasons to drop in recently!)

I agree the DoF thing is an interesting debate (not one we could influence the outcome of but interesting nonetheless) but I have sort of lost the will to live with this endless paladini, paladini, pal-a-******-dini obsession and can't see you could have the debate without it getting hijacked. Pretty much every thread on here is ending on the same topic. I don't have the time or heart to engage. But if you give it a go, I promise I for one will be constructive and let's see!!!/QUOTE]

haha- avatar was found on google images. was looking for a paladini/briatore cuddle but when i saw that i couldnt resist.

I agree about the GP threads, hoping this one doesnt get turned into a slanging match. But really wanted to hear the "pro" paladini's views on what he actually does for the club in a constructive manner.

As for starting the new thread.. I think the general consensus is that he isnt suited to that position. Personally I think there should be a manager and a chairman. No need for a DOF..

[PeterG]

Ok well to play devils advocate to this list

1) Works For A Boss Like Flavio
Question? who brought Flavio in, I thought it was GP that brought his friend in? Cant really complain about that/

2) Within days of taking over the club, was threatened.. (no dispute on that, even though the strength of it is)
Was that within days of hoiking out Power and Devlin in a board room coup to take over the club?


3) Had to have a bullet proof vest on police advice
None of our other Chairmen have had to be advised by police to wear a bullet proof vest, hmm go figure

4) Always paid staff and players, even though we were probably worse of than Portsmouth are right now.
Other debtors struggled to get their money

5) Had a massive loan to pay off annually
Which he knew all about, no shock that the club had to pay interest on the loan the club was doing this well before GP got involved

6) Plenty of people against him because he was either Italian or not seen as a QPR fan, because he had interest in Port Vale.
I dont know personally know anyone who felt GP being italian was an issue especially as he has lived here for years. People were certainly concerned when he arrived that he had recently tried to take over Port Vale and that according to people from Port Vale he had said one thing when wooing the Vale board and supporters and then another when it came down to completing the deal on the terms previously agreed.

7) Had to wheel and deal just to keep us afloat
Thats what owners of most football clubs have to do

8) Despite messageboard lies and smears still managed to maintain a football club
It was about to go into extinction until Briatore stepped in according to you and some others

9) Kept the season ticket prices as low as possible
Season ticket prices went up

10) The only person who will get players to events organised by the LSA and other associations
Previous chairmen also managed this but fair play on this point

11) Brought in investors on every level to progress this club
He certainly has done that

12) Any young child wanting to look around the ground or meet players, people who want signed stuff for charity, he would be at the forefront of it
I think he does seem to do a pretty good job on this front

13) Working from about 7am in the morning to 10pm everday for QPR, meaning he spends no time with his wife and family
Many of us work hard to put food on the table, he lives in solihull but chose to work in london wasnt he working hard to protect his investment as much as protecting QPR, no crime in that for sure but lets accept it for what it was rather than the selfless act of someone heading for sainthood which is how some people have continually portrayed him

14) Good at saving money for the club, in finding clauses in contracts as in the cases of Buzsacky, Gorkss and others
Padula contract, Dean sturridge 4.5 year contract for hall and agyamang, plenty of bad examples but he had some good ones as well

15) Despite having every thing scrutinised, never been accused by the football league, the current board for any wrong doings in the transfer markets, which is a good thing because he has to contend with innuendo and rumours about 30k for players, under audit, when it really is really just a smear campaign
Good doesnt make him an effective director of football though does it?

[kingo]

I am so bored of this debate but this is irresistable.

"Apart from saving the club"!!!? I am guessing that that little feat is to be considered sooooo yesterday it doesn't count??

As for what what he does on a day to day basis I couldn't tell you but to be honest - and here's a novelty - I couldn't care less. Though it seems some on this boatrd care very much. And about little else. A lack of perfection (and not only in relation to Paladini but pretty much everything else) seems to be a fatal flaw for some Rangers fans on here. We were always so lucky with managers and owners before weren't we? ...Quite.

As a point of detail for the list, maintaining kids under 8 getting in for free, and concessions on under 16s, OAPs etc seems pretty OK by me. Fair play and well done I say.

Not for the first time recently this is getting so Month Python-esque you couldn';t make it up if you tried!!. Now we have the equivalent of "what have the romans done for us (.... apart from the roads..... and the water....etc) " sketch. Quality. Of course I expect when the list of Paladinis doings here is finished it will get about as much impartical assessment as the roman contribution in the film did...............

Apols to any who haven;t seen the Life of Brian as the above will make no sense whatsoever. But you will now have a feeling like I have when I open all these Paladini threads.

Perhaps I will be proved wrong and at the end of this some will change their minds. Or perhaps not.

P>S - the thread doesn't ask what the relative merits of a DoF are or are not. It asked and has receioved responses about the man in the post. The general DoF thing would be one debate. Possibly a more productive one. Certainly a less jaundiced one. But that isn';t what is going on here and we all know it.

Great well reasoned post Stan, I like you really couldn't care less about various things but what I do care about is having a team to support. What I sincerely do hope is that those that run the club learn lessons and look to improve things.

[writtler]

1) Works for a boss like Flavio - and is paid extremely well to be his eyes and ears on a DAILY basis and be his chief advisor so Flav can make the decisions he does also has teh nice advantage of interest free loans of £140K that aren't available from your usual banking sources.

[theblackmafia.]

GP = :shame::very_sad::cry:

[ScottJones]

Great in bed though

[old school qpr]

Ok well to play devils advocate to this list

1) Works For A Boss Like Flavio
Question? who brought Flavio in, I thought it was GP that brought his friend in? Cant really complain about that/

2) Within days of taking over the club, was threatened.. (no dispute on that, even though the strength of it is)
Was that within days of hoiking out Power and Devlin in a board room coup to take over the club?


3) Had to have a bullet proof vest on police advice
None of our other Chairmen have had to be advised by police to wear a bullet proof vest, hmm go figure

4) Always paid staff and players, even though we were probably worse of than Portsmouth are right now.
Other debtors struggled to get their money

5) Had a massive loan to pay off annually
Which he knew all about, no shock that the club had to pay interest on the loan the club was doing this well before GP got involved

6) Plenty of people against him because he was either Italian or not seen as a QPR fan, because he had interest in Port Vale.
I dont know personally know anyone who felt GP being italian was an issue especially as he has lived here for years. People were certainly concerned when he arrived that he had recently tried to take over Port Vale and that according to people from Port Vale he had said one thing when wooing the Vale board and supporters and then another when it came down to completing the deal on the terms previously agreed.

7) Had to wheel and deal just to keep us afloat
Thats what owners of most football clubs have to do

8) Despite messageboard lies and smears still managed to maintain a football club
It was about to go into extinction until Briatore stepped in according to you and some others

9) Kept the season ticket prices as low as possible
Season ticket prices went up

10) The only person who will get players to events organised by the LSA and other associations
Previous chairmen also managed this but fair play on this point

11) Brought in investors on every level to progress this club
He certainly has done that

12) Any young child wanting to look around the ground or meet players, people who want signed stuff for charity, he would be at the forefront of it
I think he does seem to do a pretty good job on this front

13) Working from about 7am in the morning to 10pm everday for QPR, meaning he spends no time with his wife and family
Many of us work hard to put food on the table, he lives in solihull but chose to work in london wasnt he working hard to protect his investment as much as protecting QPR, no crime in that for sure but lets accept it for what it was rather than the selfless act of someone heading for sainthood which is how some people have continually portrayed him

14) Good at saving money for the club, in finding clauses in contracts as in the cases of Buzsacky, Gorkss and others
Padula contract, Dean sturridge 4.5 year contract for hall and agyamang, plenty of bad examples but he had some good ones as well

15) Despite having every thing scrutinised, never been accused by the football league, the current board for any wrong doings in the transfer markets, which is a good thing because he has to contend with innuendo and rumours about 30k for players, under audit, when it really is really just a smear campaign
Good doesnt make him an effective director of football though does it?

lets see what qbp comes back with as you have some good answers there mate

[Hoopaman]

It appears as though qbp is the only one to offer up any positive points about GP's role since the takeover.
Surely he has more support than just pete? HA9 was quick to post after pete but hasn't contributed at all to the debate. Disappointing..

[theblackmafia.]

After reading the now 'closed' thread posted by W12 (who pasted from Reports site) reference GP, it is no surprise is it?

[qblockpete]

peteg provides good arguments in his case.

its up to people to draw their own conclusions, probably right and wrong in both of our points, but at least its grown up debate.

[Hoopaman]

peteg provides good arguments in his case.

its up to people to draw their own conclusions, probably right and wrong in both of our points, but at least its grown up debate.

We will never all agree on everything. It's just good to finally hear the minorities take on it. No offence meant when I say minority, I'm sure you'll agree.
Many times I have read people say you don't realise how much he does for the club and you're the only person to offer up some valid points. Cheers for taking the time. At least you could be bothered. Maybe others don't actually know what he does either or perhaps they couldn't think of anything positive to write...

The points I listed earlier were things I had forgotten or didn't know he done. The family club values are something that I'm proud of and glad that someone high within the club holds them too.
Whether I agree with him being qualified or good enough to carry out his current role is a different matter. But then he's only doing his job...