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Originally posted by pblockranger View Postgianni please print this off and read it carefully
please leave us , thanks for the help and all you have done for the club now its time to go pleasei supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front
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Originally posted by Fez View PostYou would think if that was the case then they be able to do a better job of keeping the fans happy?
So either...
a) they don't do that
b) they don't give a toss about what the fans thinkFootball played the Charlie Ferris way
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Personally, I would have more respect for opinions, based on what has happened since the takeover, thats where you judge a person. Problem is we mock players now, but ever since GP never went to see a player play at Glentoran, its been a vendetta basically from day one. Then the Indyr's was born
I could understand a site that started after the takeover and even appreciate that fans are not happy now, but the Indyr;s web site was set well before the takeover through the dark days of the club. I am sure certain posters on here plus my self can confirm the negativity was happening when we were bottom of the league struggling relegation and they were attacking then. Current position in the league just gives them more ammunition and to a degree more listeners because we are not doing well. It plays on the negatvity. whereas most can take a look at the bigger picture, be negative when it needs to be and be positive when its needed to be.
I never saw many complaints when we were playing good football in October for instance and in the space of 3 months, things don't suddenly become undesirable or terrible, but if you play on the negativity and keep banging on about it, sometimes it will stick especially when the club are struggling on the pitch.
Because I tend to come and defend all aspects of the club, it then becomes personal with accusations that I've just supported the club or get freebies. Why is that?? Simply, they have nothing else. They want supporters on-side and anything they can do to blacken someone's name they will do.
As I said, this has been going on for years, it rears its ugly head when the club are struggling, they don't like postivity. The moment I posted we are after 4-5 players, I got the usual attackers using any excuse, to try and dampen any positivity. This great club is like a Political Party, that political party has not simply been born in the last 3 months, its been going on for about 5 years. I saw a quiet small select group of fans go very silent, when Flavio first come into the club, why?? I know why, at last it seemed the club could be united and very difficult to find a negative angle, 2 years down the line its much easier to find.
I wish like most fans we do well and push up the table, then hopefully these people quieten down again, as they will have nothing to whinge about.
In a nutshell.
If you play on the negatvity enough, when things are going not so well your audience will be bigger, you have nothing left when things are positive. That to me demonstrates an agenda, that is only used when it suits.
BY the way, this thread is not defending one particular person, just an emphasis, that in general all this negativity has been going on for years.ALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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Originally posted by qblockpete View PostPersonally, I would have more respect for opinions, based on what has happened since the takeover, thats where you judge a person. Problem is we mock players now, but ever since GP never went to see a player play at Glentoran, its been a vendetta basically from day one.
I could understand a site that started after the takeover and even appreciate that fans are not happy now, but the Indyr;s web site was set well before the takeover through the dark days of the club. I am sure certain posters on here plus my self can confirm the negativity was happening when we were bottom of the league struggling relegation and they were attacking then. Current position in the league just gives them more ammunition and to a degree more listeners because we are not doing well. It plays on the negatvity. whereas most can take a look at the bigger picture, be negative when it needs to be and be positive when its needed to be.
I never saw many complaints when we were playing good football in October for instance and in the space of 3 months, things don't suddenly become undesirable or terrible, but if you play on the negativity and keep banging on about it, sometimes it will stick especially when the club are struggling on the pitch.
Because I tend to come and defend all aspects of the club, it then becomes personal with accusations that I've just supported the club or get freebies. Why is that?? Simply, they have nothing else. They want supporters on-side and anything they can do to blacken someone's name they will do.
As I said, this has been going on for years, it rears its ugly head when the club are struggling, they don't like postivity. The moment I posted we are after 4-5 players, I got the usual attackers using any excuse, to try and dampen any positivity. This great club is like a Political Party, that political party has not simply been born in the last 3 months, its been going on for about 5 years. I saw a quiet small select group of fans go very silent, when Flavio first come into the club, why?? I know why, at last it seemed the club could be united and very difficult to find a negative angle, 2 years down the line its much easier to find.
I wish like most fans we do well and push up the table, then hopefully these people quieten down again, as they will have nothing to whinge about.
In a nutshell.
If you play on the negatvity enough, when things are going not so well your audience will be bigger, you have nothing left when things are positive. That to me demonstrates an agenda, that is only used when it suits.
BY the way, this thread is not defending one particular person, just an emphasis, that in general all this negativity has been going on for years.i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front
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Who would Flavio sell to???ALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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Originally posted by Fez View PostYou would think if that was the case then they be able to do a better job of keeping the fans happy?
So either...
a) they don't do that
b) they don't give a toss about what the fans think
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I'd be amazed if the club, don't read all QPR messageboards..ALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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Originally posted by qblockpete View PostWho would Flavio sell to???
and going off topic a little did mittal only invest so that he would be given an indian f1 gp from bernie ive heard this from a few placesi supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front
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Originally posted by westsussexranger View Postim not quite sure but what we he have done if he was forced to sell? under the fit and proper person test.
and going off topic a little did mittal only invest so that he would be given an indian f1 gp from bernie ive heard this from a few placesyou know nothing john snow!!!!
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Originally posted by factamondo View Postthis is a worrying 'rumour' i hear as well old son!
we have saw mittals billions and thought great! we are rich
but we havent seen what bad things came with it we have been blind to it
its not two faced but does anyone see where im coming from?i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front
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As someone put it the other day, many are now negative because the club sold a dream a couple of seasons ago and although we have improved on the pitch we are not in the play offs and the players talked about are not of the quality some beliave will get us up. Theefore it appears to many that yet another season has gone and we are not any nearer. Due to his position as DoFand the past history this makes GP an easy target. Me, I grew up in the days of Jim Gregory and I am certain there would have been many threads like we have now about Jim and his dealings if message boards had existed, but in hindsight many call him the saviour of QPR.RIP: Doug, Sniffer and Pat
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