Briatore must lose his appeal.........for the good of QPR

[The Fishcake]

sorry but it's laughable to expect any people (let alone the "right" people) to magically appear and take flavio's shares off him. there are clubs that are far better prospective investments than us languishing unsold right now.



yeah, you're in dreamland. luton, southampton, you name it: that could have been us. i'm not exactly in love with the way the club is being run but one thing you have to accept is we got very very lucky, however poisoned a chalice that may seem now.

This club is a very appealing club now to investors for so many reasons.... Location and Mittal involvement are to name two VERY strong ones.

[silvercue]

Great post, get Flabbio out please. Mittal's and Amit are the way forward.

But we have no evidence to suggest they will take over, or put money in. Not all rich owners do.

Everyone seems to think flav out and the Mittals will rescue us...... what if they don't? We could be in serious trouble... which we are not in currently, contrary to popular belief on here!

The club could go to the wall. Be careful what you wish for.

[Nodge70]

This club is a very appealing club now to investors for so many reasons.... Location and Mittal involvement are to name two VERY strong ones.

Doubtful. IMO.

The Mittal's have shown no interest to date in becoming any more involved.

[Nodge70]

The ground is the part that confuses me in truth... I understand Amit to hold the freehold but do flav and amit share the actual property? Or does amit own property as well?

Amit and Flav each have 50% equity in Sarita, the company who own/has the loan (depending on who you believe) on the freehold of the stadium.

[BennyBoyRs]

Doubtful. IMO.

The Mittal's have shown no interest to date in becoming any more involved.

I can't blame them under the current circumstances.

I do however believe this will change if and when Flabbio is forced to sell up. I feel they'll take up majority ownership, bring on a few contacts to ease the cash worries and take us where they 1st promised.

Not factual, of course. Just an opinion of mine that I've always believed in.

[Goddard]

For many weeks and months I have been reading the boards and one thing is painfully obvious.... never before in my 30 years+ as a supporter, have the fans of our club been so unhappy, downbeat and fiercely divided over so many subjects....

Anyone who doesn't agree with that first paragraph is deluded.

The man must either grow some balls and admit mistakes (which I don't think he has in his make-up).
Or move aside.
I don't think he's evil or anything like that... just a typical dictator, pretty clueless about football, and too arrogant to realise it.

[shania]

For many weeks and months I have been reading the boards and one thing is painfully obvious.... never before in my 30 years+ as a supporter, have the fans of our club been so unhappy, downbeat and fiercely divided over so many subjects.

All clubs at any given time will have fans disagreeing over certain aspects of their club be it a certain player, the chairman, manager, or tactics for example. But generally they pull together for the good of the club.

Whereas here at QPR we seem to be going the proverbial "t*ts up" with frightening speed.

QPR FC at the moment is simply not a happy place to be.

Managers, for whatever reason have come and gone too quickly.
Players show signs of unrest and under achieve.
Some signings have been both poor and ill advised.
Fans have been charged for the "top of the range" model and been sold the "budget" one.
Fortress Loftus Road is no more......the atmosphere all but gone.
Fans staying away in numbers.
Etc etc.......

Now I am coming to my point.

Fans are spending day after day argueing amongst themselves over who is to blame for all the different things wrong with the club.

It's the Managers fault, tactics, the board, GP, players, fans with agendas etc etc

However the one person who rarely gets the finger of blame pointed at him is Flavio Briatore.

Flavio Briatore, the supposed Saviour of the club!

Sorry, but I do not and never will accept that if he had not stepped in we would have gone out of business. There simply would have been someone else.
Whether we would be in the same boat now or indeed better or worse off we will never know.

For all the things that we are not happy about with the club at the moment surely Flavio has to take the blame.

If he makes mistakes because of poor advice, then it is poor advice from the people he has employed.

Signings, loans, manager appointments, manager sackings, team interference, prices, contempt for fans .........we all know the list.

Ultimately for all the things we are unhappy with the blame has to land at his feet.
As in Pete's own words ..........."Flavio holds the key as he decides absolutely everything."

The problem I think is that he simply has too much say over too many important issues and while he controls these decisions I just can't see us ever moving forward from where we are now. A mid table CCC team.

This is the reason that I firmly believe that the best thing for QPR FC is for Briatore to lose his appeal with F1 and for the FA to enforce the "fit and proper persons " rule.
He would no longer be able to have the controlling interest and if the right people were to buy into the club or existing board members gained more of a say then I honestly believe it would be in all our interests, as opposed to one mans.

I wouldn't like to see him leave as I think he deserves to be able to have some involvement with the "project" he started and hopefully see it through to the promised land.
I actually believe he does want good things for the club but on the evidence of the last 2+ years he has had far too much say and it simply isn't working.

Speaking out loudly; I dont Thrust the Mittals one:devil::shame::shame: bit!!

[Tarbie]

I can't blame them under the current circumstances.

I do however believe this will change if and when Flabbio is forced to sell up. I feel they'll take up majority ownership, bring on a few contacts to ease the cash worries and take us where they 1st promised.

Not factual, of course. Just an opinion of mine that I've always believed in.

It is also worth bearing in mind that the Mittal family's wealth comes from the Steel Industry and as such it is reasonable to assume that they have been hit pretty hard by the economic downturn.

I have had dealings with Arcelor Mittal (Lakshmi Mittal's company) in the last couple of years and I can tell you now, they are really struggling.

If you were Mr Mittal and you had seen significant amounts of money wiped off your net worth in the last couple of years would you wanted to be throwing more of your millions into a football club which is in dissaray?

[The Fishcake]

Doubtful. IMO.

The Mittal's have shown no interest to date in becoming any more involved.

If Amit wasnt interested he would have bailed by now - not installed his associate Ishan Saksenna as CEO. Be patient... the mittal's are whole hearted about QPR.

Speaking out loudly; I dont Thrust the Mittals one:devil::shame::shame: bit!!

Based on what? There is little then can do til Flavio is removed.

[silvercue]

exactly that Tarbie.

Those that think the Mittals are our knights in shining armour poised to rescue us are living in dreamland.

Please prove me wrong!!!

[BennyBoyRs]

It is also worth bearing in mind that the Mittal family's wealth comes from the Steel Industry and as such it is reasonable to assume that they have been hit pretty hard by the economic downturn.

I have had dealings with Arcelor Mittal (Lakshmi Mittal's company) in the last couple of years and I can tell you now, they are really struggling.

If you were Mr Mittal and you had seen significant amounts of money wiped off your net worth in the last couple of years would you wanted to be throwing more of your millions into a football club which is in dissaray?

I believe (and I may be wrong) that the Mittal's have recouperated a lot of that wealth back. I know it was reported that they lost almost half of the family fortune at first. I'm sure I read somewhere that he is now worth around $30b (roughly £16b in todays exchange rate) which is nothing to be sniffed at.

Again, I may be wrong but I seem to recall reading this a few mionths back.

[silvercue]

I believe (and I may be wrong) that the Mittal's have recouperated a lot of that wealth back. I know it was reported that they lost almost half of the family fortune at first. I'm sure I read somewhere that he is now worth around $30b (roughly £16b in todays exchange rate) which is nothing to be sniffed at.

Again, I may be wrong but I seem to recall reading this a few mionths back.

They want to move the stadium to Mumbai though.

[ollyhoops]

Be careful what you all wish for......

[Tarbie]

I believe (and I may be wrong) that the Mittal's have recouperated a lot of that wealth back. I know it was reported that they lost almost half of the family fortune at first. I'm sure I read somewhere that he is now worth around $30b (roughly £16b in todays exchange rate) which is nothing to be sniffed at.

Again, I may be wrong but I seem to recall reading this a few mionths back.

To be fair Benny that is still a hell of a lot of money isn't it? But you don't get to be that rich by squandering your money, and I fear that maybe Mr Mittal is just a bit too savvy to come rushing in with the type of investment the club requires!

[Nodge70]

If Amit wasnt interested he would have bailed by now - not installed his associate Ishan Saksenna as CEO. Be patient... the mittal's are whole hearted about QPR.



Based on what? There is little then can do til Flavio is removed.

Amit has no personal wealth. At least nothing near sufficient to run a CCC side. I'm sure Amit is interested; he needs to persuade his father in law though!