Very Basic Sums

[Gtleighsr3]

shut up fooooollllll

[terry ball]

Pete, some people struggle to understand the basic facts, yet they then have the audacity to call the board all the names under the sun.

I have said it before, a number of QPR fans act like spoilt children and you will never get them to understand.

What are the facts then?

[Paladinooo]

Why is it, when I give my views, its misplaced for someone else's??

Just relaying facts, if they are hard to swallow, I do apologise

Why? Because everyone knows they're not yours but Paladini's. Stop this charade pete.

[qblockpete]

Connors, you'll right. Complete waste of time

Of course things are not right at the club, but it really does get exaggerated.

The board cannot be blamed for Magilton alledgely laying one on Buzsacky
The board cannot be blamed for being comparatively strigent in the transfer market.
We have just had a creditable draw against Sheffield United away, yet you wouldn't even know a game took place.

We all want to be higher than 10th, but we don't have divine right to be there. The football recently has been dire and I don't even want to go away games anymore, but all this negativity on every subject is getting really tiresome.

If we are not blaming one person, we blame someone else. We boo our team/manager when we win a game and it the whole place is a bad place to be. Okay the board gave us a 4 year plan, they can hardly give us a 10 year plan. They joined a little over 2 years ago. Instead of looking on the positives, too many look back at the past, whilst forgetting about the future. If, I say anything positive its shoued down at the first opportunity, or that old chestnut that I am a spokeman for the club. All simply, because you disagree with me.. Shame that

Some cannot understand this is simply football and what might be rubbish now, might be great in 2 months time, but with so much negativity around esepcially on supporting side of things, I doubt we are going anywhere.

I hope we stuff Plymouth because for at least a week, it will calm down. I don;t like the few who play on the negativity and maximise it beyond all belief, making it very hard to get behind our team.

[theblackmafia.]

All the furore and not a single 'negative' post from me, yipee!

[Gtleighsr3]

It all boils down to the fact we have suffered crap for years and years now and the boil has finally burst and all yes allthe poison is coming out.we aint going to be happy till we are back in the Prem and then when established there.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Lets just take an average

Newcastle 40,000 supporters paying Average £25 a ticket = 1 Million turnover each home game = 23 Million Pounds revenue on home games

Nottingham Forest 20,000 supporters paying £25 a ticket= £500,000 turnover each home game= 11.5 Million Pounds revenue on home games

QPR 13,000 supporters payng £25 a ticket = £325,00 turnover per game equates to 7.4 million revenue on home games

Okay you can wrap in season ticket prices, but thats the average cost per game. You could argue that clubs have cheaper and more expensive seats, but this is just used an example, as whatever calculation you do its going to be more for the bigger clubs

In the championship, how can we compete with the above teams in terms of players wages and big signings?? I hear and read concerns that we are building up a debt, which no doubt is true, but surely with the squad we have, we are living beyond our means, as in reality in the real world without the investment, we would be struggling between the championship and Division 1 and not attracting the better type player.

Lets say our players average 10k a week (an average say) and based across 22 players, thats £220,000 per week spread across 52 weeks equates to 11.4 million pounds alone in wages.

As you can see the its a deficit already and I'm just using a VERY simplified mathematical tool to put the point across, as so many things should be added.

I make the point, because some seem convinced we should be spending more??

OK, OK, we get it, Pete.........The QPR circus is set to run, and run, and run, and run, and errrrr, run, and run, and run.

[Sharpy]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stringent

2 4th rate Italian unknowns on long term deals being shipped out at a cost of in the region of 1.5 million

Strigent my R`s

[Rangersw12]

Connors, you'll right. Complete waste of time

Of course things are not right at the club, but it really does get exaggerated.

The board cannot be blamed for Magilton alledgely laying one on Buzsacky
The board cannot be blamed for being comparatively strigent in the transfer market.
We have just had a creditable draw against Sheffield United away, yet you wouldn't even know a game took place.

We all want to be higher than 10th, but we don't have divine right to be there. The football recently has been dire and I don't even want to go away games anymore, but all this negativity on every subject is getting really tiresome.

If we are not blaming one person, we blame someone else. We boo our team/manager when we win a game and it the whole place is a bad place to be. Okay the board gave us a 4 year plan, they can hardly give us a 10 year plan. They joined a little over 2 years ago. Instead of looking on the positives, too many look back at the past, whilst forgetting about the future. If, I say anything positive its shoued down at the first opportunity, or that old chestnut that I am a spokeman for the club. All simply, because you disagree with me.. Shame that

Some cannot understand this is simply football and what might be rubbish now, might be great in 2 months time, but with so much negativity around esepcially on supporting side of things, I doubt we are going anywhere.

I hope we stuff Plymouth because for at least a week, it will calm down. I don;t like the few who play on the negativity and maximise it beyond all belief, making it very hard to get behind our team.

Yeah its all the fans fault isn't it nothing to do with the match prices , managers being sacked every six months , club wasting money on poor players i.e Pellocori on a 3 year deal ffs !!!

[themodfather]

the board can be blamed for magilton
1) they appointed him
2) a numpty
3) i can't believe players hadn't spoken to gp about unrest, therefore the "Board" knew and didn't step in sooner
4) board appoint another numpty in hart whilst jm still manager, did they interview any others??? why not??
5) club alledgedly monitor mbs and most had posts on unrest in a "Lost dressing room"

[issay]

Most of the Premiership are living like this.Relegation is a worry for all .But our attendance is the biggest worry.Would the championship want us if it was run like the Premiership?I do feel smaller gates will suffer long term...

[Bernie's Barnet]

Connors, you'll right. Complete waste of time

Of course things are not right at the club, but it really does get exaggerated.

The board cannot be blamed for Magilton alledgely laying one on BuzsackyNo but the board could be blamed for ever employing an (allegedly) violent bully as manager in the first place. His reputation was not exactly a secret in football circles (allegedly of course). So who shortlisted him?

The board cannot be blamed for being comparatively strigent in the transfer market. No they can't, very prudent, it makes me wonder why they have been so happy to throw compensation money around like confetti on one manager after another.

We have just had a creditable draw against Sheffield United away, yet you wouldn't even know a game took place.

We all want to be higher than 10th, but we don't have divine right to be there. The football recently has been dire and I don't even want to go away games anymore, but all this negativity on every subject is getting really tiresome.

If we are not blaming one person, we blame someone else. We boo our team/manager when we win a game and it the whole place is a bad place to be. Okay the board gave us a 4 year plan, they can hardly give us a 10 year plan. Why not? It's the lack of honesty that has been a major contributor to the dreadful atmosphere amongst the fans. Although I understand it would be difficult to increase ST prices by 50% on the promise of a better future in 10 years.

They joined a little over 2 years ago. Instead of looking on the positives, too many look back at the past, whilst forgetting about the future. If, I say anything positive its shoued down at the first opportunity, or that old chestnut that I am a spokeman for the club. All simply, because you disagree with me.. Shame that

Some cannot understand this is simply football and what might be rubbish now, might be great in 2 months time, Strangely, clubs who have followed a strategy of giving managers time and resources to get it right have teams which are playing good quality football week in week out, season in season out. What does that suggest?

but with so much negativity around esepcially on supporting side of things, I doubt we are going anywhere.

I hope we stuff Plymouth because for at least a week, it will calm down. I don;t like the few who play on the negativity and maximise it beyond all belief, making it very hard to get behind our team.

:cry:

[qblockpete]

modfather, much of your comments are assumptions

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Connors, you'll right. Complete waste of time

Of course things are not right at the club, but it really does get exaggerated.

The board cannot be blamed for Magilton alledgely laying one on Buzsacky
The board cannot be blamed for being comparatively strigent in the transfer market.
We have just had a creditable draw against Sheffield United away, yet you wouldn't even know a game took place.

We all want to be higher than 10th, but we don't have divine right to be there. The football recently has been dire and I don't even want to go away games anymore, but all this negativity on every subject is getting really tiresome.

If we are not blaming one person, we blame someone else. We boo our team/manager when we win a game and it the whole place is a bad place to be. Okay the board gave us a 4 year plan, they can hardly give us a 10 year plan. They joined a little over 2 years ago. Instead of looking on the positives, too many look back at the past, whilst forgetting about the future. If, I say anything positive its shoued down at the first opportunity, or that old chestnut that I am a spokeman for the club. All simply, because you disagree with me.. Shame that

Some cannot understand this is simply football and what might be rubbish now, might be great in 2 months time, but with so much negativity around esepcially on supporting side of things, I doubt we are going anywhere.

I hope we stuff Plymouth because for at least a week, it will calm down. I don;t like the few who play on the negativity and maximise it beyond all belief, making it very hard to get behind our team.

How about we start a campaign where we get all the fans in attendance at Loftus Road to, just before the game kicks off, hold hands and close our eyes and wish and wish and wish, that we actually watch 11 men play with pride, passion, and to their full capabilities, starting with saturday's game against the janners.

[conners]

Pete you are spot on.

To the person who asked am I happy, the answer is no, however, I am realistic. We are a Division one club playing in the Championship.

I'm sure the likes of Watford fans would happily swap places with us tomorrow in terms of our ownership and would probably be happy enough for Flavio to pick the ****** team.

Pete gave us an indication of the numbers at the start of this thread. Our board are obviously subsidising our club,yet people have the audacity to call them all names under the sun if they are not prepared to spend £2 Million on a player who may turn out to be a dud once our boo boys get hold of him.

Get real, take the glasses off and understand that we would have almost certainly been playing in Division 2 again by now had it not been for Flavio and Co coming in AND for Gianni finding them.