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  • #46
    Adams was manager prior to fayed taking over so he never employed him....Keegan left to take england job....Bracewell was temp manager. You stated you wanted me to provide facts.....like you stated Devo gave you a season ticket only for you yourself to suffer a bout of amnesia when sussed out....

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    • #47
      Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
      do you think we'd be getting 13,000 crowds if they hadn't over-inflated the prices?

      We are getting 13,000 crowds because the club is in mid-table, much higher it would be nearer 16,000 irrevelant of price. End of the day, supporters are paying for entertainment

      Would you agree we could be getting at least 16/17,000 and selling out the top games if they restructered it and improved their PR which in turn could return at least some of the feel-good-factor and possibly even increase their revenue?
      (The improved atmosphere may even have a beneficial effect on the team).

      Honestly believe its all relevant to the position in the league and the feel good factor. the latter is non-existent. Other teams in the championship have proved time and time again, if they look like getting promoted than crowds flock to see them
      Pete, in that case why didnt the crowds increase during Magilton's good spell, when we went up to 4th place? I dont see how that argument stands up...

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      • #48
        well, you can take Gregory off my list then !!

        De Canio left for Italy and was not sacked, so that we can match that up with keegan

        End of the day, you were saying that Fayed never changed managers, he did more than us. FACTAMONDO
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        • #49
          Stanley 76, they did increase.

          They would have continued to increase, the more we won games.
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          • #50
            seven managers in ten years of which 1 left for england job and ones was in temp charge ..Hows that more than us ...FACT...

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            • #51
              I don't care if keegan went to USA and did a strip in Central Park.

              Fact is in Al Fayed's tenure he had 5 managers in his first 3 years.

              Which is still a high rate.
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              • #52
                we have had how many pete?????????????

                5 in 2 yrs

                Luigi De Canio
                Iain Dowie
                Paulo Sousa
                Jim Magilton
                Paul Hart

                not included in that is 5 months with caretaker managers.So 5 managers on approx 21 months....

                And they sacked the one with the best ever percentage of wins in over 100 years..

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                  Stanley 76, they did increase.

                  They would have continued to increase, the more we won games.
                  They increased for the Leicester game only, because they ran a promotion, but lets not split hairs.

                  Anyway thanks for answering the questions. Whilst we may not agree I think youre trying to be honest at least.

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                  • #54
                    I think the most critical factor is taking the time to find the right manager and backing him. Either he is pivotal to success or not. There has to be continuity for anything to grow and this is something that has been lacking. The money seems to have been spent badly in many areas. We need to commit to spending consistently in the one area that will have the biggest impact on success.

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                    • #55
                      who had the best winning percentage?? I do agree, we should never have got rid of Dowie

                      I can tell you who had the worst

                      SOUSA factamondo

                      26.9%
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                      • #56
                        DOWIE....Who buys the player pete...your mate gianni FACT..

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                          who had the best winning percentage??

                          I can tell you who had the worst

                          SOUSA factamondo

                          26.9%
                          another pathetic attempt to defend yourself

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                          • #58
                            just stating facts.

                            You tend not to be able to argue with those.

                            Even Alan Mullery had a better win ratio...

                            Just for the record, games won

                            Dowie 53.3
                            Magilton 37.5
                            De Canio 34.3

                            Sousa, the one everyone some crave about, not because of his record, but it suits an agenda a whopping

                            26.9%:cry::shame:
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                              just stating facts.

                              You tend not to be able to argue with those.

                              Even Alan Mullery had a better win ratio...

                              Just for the record, games won

                              Dowie 53.3
                              Magilton 37.5
                              De Canio 34.3

                              Sousa, the one everyone some crave about, not because of his record, but it suits an agenda a whopping

                              26.9%:cry::shame:
                              but which one was building the better platform........

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                              • #60
                                qprsouth

                                I agree, should never have got rid of Dowie or even Magilton come to that.

                                As for player buyings and loans, you could see the way we beat Derby away on TV, the players are good enough, they are lacking in confidence, because they have instability at the top.

                                The whole place is a miserablt place at the moment, the problem is you aiming that at one person, when it runs far deeper than that. Only my opinion of course
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