There really is not a lot wrong

[Fez]

Tarbie, but had we won 3-0 today would the fans have been as concerned ?

It may have papered over the cracks as the Bristol win did but I think it's evident that most supporters of this club aren't happy!

[Olly]

two differing points of view, now I am confused

[writtler]

writtler, poor argument. During the time i am referring to , we beat Barnsley ( who have gone on to beat West Brom, Ipswich, Cardiff and Blackpool since) and we did everything bar thrash Newcastle at St James Park. THe team was clearly playing with far more confidence.

I take the point that something is wrong, however, i make the point that there cannot be too many things wrong. It is the same old "blame the board, the fans no best". The fans have a part to play and they have clearly been as useful as the players in recent weeks.

Just checked comical Ali and the teams we scored 4 against are currently 15th, 16th, 18th & 20th in the table - the good run was a fluke - face up to the truth..

[James1979]

we beat cardiff 2-0, drew with at st. james', drew at west brom.....we've had good results and performances against some good teams. We have good players, we just need someone to be consistent in selection and restore some confidence to the dressing room.

[qblockpete]

Last christmas we got 2 points in 2 games

This season we got 3 points in 2 games.

Yet, quite surprisingly fans were not only happier under Sousa, but the fact we drew both instead of winning one.

w12ranger as you say it not rocket science.

[Sleeping Giants]

I would suggest that being 10th as opposed 24th suggests that they have done something right along the way.

What is your plan B ? Let's hear it. No one will want to buy QPR so what is it ?

And no one in their right mind would want the poisoned challice of managing QPR. When was the last time you read in the paper that one of our players "loves the supporters".........a long time ago and I'm siding with the players here. Our support is rubbish....all we seem to do is heap more pressure onto an already difficult situation. There are loads of teams in the Football League that would love to be 10th in the Championship.....that would have included QPR 5 years ago!! Glass half full!!.....At least QPR v Cheltenham is no longer a league fixture!!

[Goddard]

Last christmas we got 2 points in 2 games

This season we got 3 points in 2 games.

Yet, quite surprisingly fans were not only happier under Sousa, but the fact we drew both instead of winning one.

w12ranger as you say it not rocket science.

Remarkable gift for turning a deep debate into such a shallow and trivial one.


No proven manager "will touch us with a barge-pole"
If that includes Coppell for example... I wonder what his reasons are for thinking that?? Why do you think we're viewed that way by him, and others??

That's the root of ALL this turmoil, not the bl**dy Sousa debate.
You got your wish, he was sacked. End of. Well done. History.

What about the shocking alternatives we are left with now, and why that is?
Why are we a no-go zone? Why should we accept these second rate failures and journeymen?
How else can you judge a manager if not by his past records/acheivements??
Why are we scared of appointing proven managers?
Why don't they want to come to QPR, with the funds available, our location etc..?
They are the key questions.



2 points, 3 points at Xmas etc, blah.... so f***ing what.

Christ. :waaaht:

[theblackmafia.]

Just consider two months ago when we were putting four goals past every team. What has changed since then ?

The board - Nope, still the same. A lot of you hate them but they were in place when we were thrashing teams

The players - Same group of players.

The manager - new manager but the disappointing performances had quite clearly started under the old manager.

We have gone downhill very fast, however, i do feel that it is the loss of the likes of Rowlands etc that are making the difference.

We have too many players in our team who are short in confidence whilst we also have a couple that don't give a f*** (Routledge goes under the radar for many but not for me he doesn't. Adel is a very greedy player but does the guy try.)

Anyhow, not going to get to down.

I love you Conners I really do, nearly as much as I love 'ol Pete. Two peas in a pod I believe the expression to be?

[qblockpete]

Coppell wants a rest from football..

[baille funk]

Despite the bad run, in terms of league positioning, we have still made progress under Briatore. Just sit back and think what would all the moaners have been saying had we won 3-0 today. Would they have been moaning about Briatore ? Of course they wouldn't. I'm as depressed as the next person tonight, but need to put the current run into some perspective.

still coming out with the same old tired lines, conners. why do you bother? no, don't answer that, i suspect i know. do you call five managers in 18 months progress? we are dropping down the table? do you call this progress? we continue to sign journeyman rubbish and pack our first team with loan players? do you call that progress? i have absolutely no doubt we will sack hart, most likely before the end ofthe season? this is your idea of progress?

and still you blame the fans. you even hide behind that keyboard and insult them.

i feel embarrassed for you.

[Rebel R's]

does this guy"connors" work as a spin doctor for the board,if so he is very good

[theblackmafia.]

does this guy"connors" work as a spin doctor for the board,if so he is very good

Is he!?

[Goddard]

Coppell wants a rest from football..

Nice swerve there.

What about all the others that "wouldn't touch QPR with a barge-pole" then?
Coppell was just an example, as you well know.

Something is turning good managers with good CV's away from managing a "rich" London club, or even considering it.
And it's not the temperature of the pies or the weather.


I know what that is... and I think if you were being honest - you do as well.

[qblockpete]

Don't know where you get "wouldn't touch this club with a bargepole" comment. At least 3 wanted, 3 year contracts.

[Loneranger80]

Who wanted 3 yr deals?