I have just joined WATRB.

[C.Mongler]

Right I can't be bothered to read the other comments on this article but will make my own judgements on your post. Now i have no social relationship with any of the admins or mods on this board but I feel this accusation and the turning of QPR fans on to others is a bit OTT.

Yes. In hindsight it is obvious that, YES, the post should have been deleted but it was not on this site that it first occured. The official website is responsible for that. This 'Wazza', who, has now become some what of a headliner in the last few days posted his first post. I believe you cannot put the blame onto a newly re-formed messageboard when it was clearly not their fault. This 'Wazza' can not be considered a fan and I hope this now helps other fans realise why fans that are 'ITK' cannot reveal all details and their sources...because this is the sort of event that can occur.

Fact of the matter is, a manager should be allowed to express his feelings in full confidence to someone i presume he would trust. This is obviously not the case and I wouldn't be surprised if 'RUMOURS' would rarely start to surface now.

The people on this site pass on information that does not directly harm or cause disrepute. Hence why it was no them who started this off.

Maybe it is coincidence that this site gets much publcity for the wrong reasons but, in all honesty i believe it's not fair on the owners of this site who do a darn good job in all honesty. I think you would find if this were to happen on the dot.org or LFW then people would not be pointing fingers.

Just all personal opinion and reiterate I know none of these people and feel this whole situation has just been an exscuse to point the finger when we clearly know it is THE BOARD who are making this club a joke.

I understand what you are getting at, but it also about legitimate expectations of this board's reputation. The main reason this message board gets a bit of stick, for better or worse, is because of the huge "in the know" factor.

Now as you say, this has not been a huge deal - rumours are rumours, and they have not in the past particularly effected the club. But I would say that it becomes a lot more relevant now that we have had a manager sacked for the divulging of internal information.

A few people on this board are very open about the fact that they have internal links to the club, and that they are thus privvy to important internal information - and a lot of this makes it into the public domain via this message board. In a situation where the club is keeping the vast majority of disenchanted fans in the dark and treating them like cretins, I think it is about time we get to know what's going on. When quizzed on this, people are mostly treated with disdain and largely patronised. People are fobbed off, saying we have 'no idea' and not to get involved.

Well we should be involved. I love this club, and I want to know what's going on. The fans should be equipped with the truth - the current leaking of information has so far cost us a manager.

[WeymouthHoop]

I understand what you are getting at, but it also about legitimate expectations of this board's reputation. The main reason this message board gets a bit of stick, for better or worse, is because of the huge "in the know" factor.

Now as you say, this has not been a huge deal - rumours are rumours, and they have not in the past particularly effected the club. But I would say that it becomes a lot more relevant now that we have had a manager sacked for the divulging of internal information.

A few people on this board are very open about the fact that they have internal links to the club, and that they are thus privvy to important internal information - and a lot of this makes it into the public domain via this message board. In a situation where the club is keeping the vast majority of disenchanted fans in the dark and treating them like cretins, I think it is about time we get to know what's going on. When quizzed on this, people are mostly treated with disdain and largely patronised. People are fobbed off, saying we have 'no idea' and not to get involved.

Well we should be involved. I love this club, and I want to know what's going on. The fans should be equipped with the truth - the current leaking of information has so far cost us a manager.

Quite right. The ITK crew on here are very quick to make comment on things they have been fed or have heard, The post that led to the sacking of Sousa should not have been allowed to stay up by mods/admin, however, I cant help but think it did stay up as it was a bit 'juicy' and the kind of gossip that certain people thrive on.

[stan_bowles]

the current leaking of information has so far cost us a manager.

Does seem that way.I think the board admins should have shown more common sense and deleted the thread,by the fan that spoke to Sousa,as soon as it was spotted,not allowed it to run.

[C.Mongler]

Does seem that way.I think the board admins should have shown more common sense and deleted the thread,by the fan that spoke to Sousa,as soon as it was spotted,not allowed it to run.

I quite agree, but I think this goes deeper. I find it very very sinister and concerning that we lose a manager for speaking up about not knowing about his own players going out on loan, and then we have administrators on here who claim to know the ins and outs of possible transfer agreements. There are not many people at the club privy to that info, and whoever it is, if its not total BS, is funnelling it to the people who run this message board. A lot of people seem to think they know who it is, but regardless...if Sousa lost his job over it, then whoever it is should rightly be bricking it.

In times where we justifiably don't trust the club, its about time we were all in the know.

[TheBlackMafia]

Is there any chance at all that the 'New Poster' was in fact a plant by a certain individual and/or indiviuals from our club and a certain message board?

It would not surprise me one iota if it was orchestrated to bring PS into disripute, thus leading to his inevitable sacking (with no pay-off).

Why would PS supposedly talk so candidly to a complete stranger? Are people suggesting PS is a complete *****?

Conspiracies, I love 'em!

[TheBlackMafia]

I am going to bid you all farewell. Thanks for those who supported my post, Factomondo, I think you are a bell end of the highest order 'old son'.
I dont like this site, never have done. Run by ******s, however, most of you have shown that there are some sensible people on here.

:byebye:

Don't leave me in the minority please! I needed help on here and now your coughing off! :very_sad:

[C.Mongler]

Don't leave me in the minority please! I needed help on here and now your coughing off! :very_sad:

:red_heart:

[Kirill]

That poster was a real fan, unfortunately.
I do not envy him now.

[stan_bowles]

Don't leave me in the minority please! I needed help on here and now your coughing off! :very_sad:

[TheBlackMafia]

That poster was a real fan, unfortunately.
I do not envy him now.

Who?

[Kirill]

Who?

I would be a right barsteward if I named him now.
If Sousa decides to sue, we will all know.

[TheBlackMafia]

I would be a right barsteward if I named him now.
If Sousa decides to sue, we will all know.

Are you saying the person who started the thread about his 'little chat' with PS?

Why do you not envy him?

[Kirill]

Are you saying the person who started the thread about his 'little chat' with PS?

Why do you not envy him?

Anyone who saw that thread before all the hullaballoo has a pretty good idea of who he is, his username + the photo he attached. It is not privileged information. But I imagine myself in his shoes right now and doubt very much that he would appreciate any more publicity. Can we not put all the bickering aside in this particular instance? At least until some callous individual decides to name him simply because "people need to know". Which I hope does not happen.

[TheBlackMafia]

I need to know though, as my life depends on it! I probably aint gonna know who it is even if you say the guys name, plus if he is that well known, why did people not recognise him when he first posted?

[stan_bowles]

Can't say i would feel to comftable being that guy,knowing that his post could well have cost Sousa his job.