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  • Sense from Tracy

    (Borrowed from dotorgistan)

    Bit of a wider picture folks....

    A friend of my older daughter was fined by the club for a bit of exuberant language a few games ago at LR. He's 18 years old and was fined £50. Easy option for the club but that's another story. Totally ridiculous by the club.

    Last week, my daughter and this lad went along to the clubshop together and spent money in there that neither of them really have. This lad, who was fined by his own club, and has received a subsequent letter from them, still went ahead and gave them his money.
    Oh, and neither of them were asked if they were season ticket holders (both are) which would have saved them a bit on their discount (both of them being young and foolish didn't even think about the discount).

    Weekend before I last, I was in there. No jewellry on sale in the shop, online only. So that's a sale they lost. Then there was insistence on showing another card with your name on when producing a season ticket card. What if you had no other card on you? Plenty of youngsters wouldn't. Where does it say anywhere in writing that season ticket holders have to produce another card with their name on to receive their discount?

    I recently received a letter from the club by way of a reply regarding the non AGM.s. These, by the way, now look as though they are a thing of the past, despite Board members actually stating at previous ones how they viewed them as symbolic for the minority shareholders.

    The above are just silly little things that whilst individually are of course not deserving of any kind of protest etc. However, collectively it all grates and not too many years ago I would have been complaining to the club, nagging, asking for responses etc. However, as has been mentioned on this thread, even I have been hit by the old apathy thing.

    On Monday, the girls and myself went to West Brom. We endured the cold, wet, rain, cold pasties at half time, their two goals etc. But that endurance was nothing compared to the utter joy of those two goals. In fact due to some over exuberant celebrating on my part, my mobile bounced out of my coat, hit the ground and ended up in different pieces/parts. I was still putting it together when the second goal went in lol and it was all more than worth it.

    I probably haven't explained myself too well above, but what I'm trying to say is that despite the club ****ing us off, we'd go to the other side of the country to cheer our team on, finances allowing. As no doubt would everyone on this thead. However, unconditional support and love for our team/club does not mean that we cannot question things that upset us. It certainly does not mean that folk should feel reluctant to discuss with other QPR fans how concerned they are about different QPR issues.

    What's needed is a fans forum. And not the kind that will only hold 50 or so in the blue and white bar. But a proper forum at a town hall where a structured Q&A session could take place. The problem is there's no-one at the club with the willingness to arrange such an event, and so when things such as recent events occur,it's only natural that we, as supporters, feel frustrated when there is no vehicle available which allows us to express our frustrations and concerns to the club.

    So with a fans forum more than likely a no-go, JH count me in on your protest

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    I Know someone that was thrown out of the qblock because he went over the top in celebrating. Because of that the whole family have moved, sorry state of affairs.

    I went to See Ali Russell last week, on a different subject in regards to nostagia 75-76 project and a planned video, anyway it struck me that he wanted more togetherness between club and fans. He was keen on bringing the fans closer and back together. I know alot of damage has been done with the price rises and the changing of managers have not helped.

    I get the impression that the club have so many fans groups (all do a good job), that he felt it wasn't working to have these regular meetings. I had noticed all that had stopped this season, but each group went to the club with different agendas and importance for differing things. We have OSC, Friends of QPR, LSA, Indyrs and other various messageboards and I'm not sure they felt anything was ever achieved. I don't know what the answer is, but the supporters have never felt so distant from the club and thats a real shame. We did discuss one or two things at the end of the meeting, but whilst I am a member of all the associations, its not for me to enter dialogue on their behalf, but something definitely needs to be done. I'd imagine thats why we have not heard from Amit, as he tended to be the first point of call for complaints in the end.
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    • #3
      And Briatores response will be and I'm actually laughing as I type this....

      "Fans Forum, tell them to go **** themselves"

      In all fairness all issues raised in this piece are nothing new, the general incompetence of QPR staff is legendary.

      Fans Forum??? Have you seen some of the planks that turn up things and the daft questions they ask....imagine holding one in Hammersmith Town Hall it'll be hilarious.

      The way I see it I treat the club with contempt when it comes to handing over money.

      - I assume all those who work in the box office are as thick as **** therefore never do anything over the phone, buy tickets directly from the BO and make sure I speak slowly.
      - I rarely purchase anything from the clubshop but if on occassion I do I always do my best to blag some sort of discount regardless 'cause I give enough of my money to the club as it is'.
      - Never buy confectionary or drinks in the ground, beyond me why people waste their money surely you can wait 90mins to eat or drink.

      All you should have to do is get 5 intelligent representatives with no hidden agenda to sit in a room around the board table with Bhatia, Paladini and Russell to discuss issues surrounding the club from a fans perspective.


      Personally though after reading some of the speil on these MB's I wouldn't want to have to listen to a few hundred QPR fans moaning.
      Last edited by W12_Ranger; 16-12-2009, 11:25 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by W12_Ranger View Post
        The way I see it I treat the club with contempt when it comes to handing over money.

        - I assume all those who work in the box office are as thick as **** therefore never do anything over the phone, buy tickets directly from the BO and make sure I speak slowly.
        - I rarely purchase anything from the clubshop but if on occassion I do I always do my best to blag some sort of discount regardless 'cause I give enough of my money to the club as it is'.
        - Never buy confectionary or drinks in the ground, beyond me why people waste their money surely you can wait 90mins to eat or drink.
        You could also save some money by not purchasing the tickets and just standing outside the ground during the match, you will hear the crowd roar when a goal is scored and you can celebrate all you want without fearing evicition by stewards
        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
        but take a look at my photo blog:

        http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

        How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
        http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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        • #5
          What's needed is one fan who is elected by the fanbase to act as a liaison with the club. All these splintered groups are self defeating as it's all a bit 'Life of Brian'.

          I'd nominate Tracy as a front runner myself.
          We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kirill View Post
            You could also save some money by not purchasing the tickets and just standing outside the ground during the match, you will hear the crowd roar when a goal is scored and you can celebrate all you want without fearing evicition by stewards
            I don't fear eviction from stewards because I like to sit in my seat and watch the game.

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            • #7
              Newark R, and who votes for a head in this situation?? Then will someone else be offended, its a very difficult predicament. I do agree having so many groups does us no favours.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by NewarkR View Post
                What's needed is one fan who is elected by the fanbase to act as a liaison with the club. All these splintered groups are self defeating as it's all a bit 'Life of Brian'.

                I'd nominate Tracy as a front runner myself.
                Out of curiosity do you actually know her or are you just saying that for the sake of it? Personally I couldn't care less about what she has to say on these minor issues.

                Now if I you want a fans representative for the craic I'd vote for The Modfather 'King Of The Moaners'.....there would be no messing about with him and he'll be straight in for the jugular.

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                • #9
                  **** it, I don't care.

                  I made a suggestion to try and make this ****hole forum worth something.

                  ******** to the lot of you.
                  We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are...

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                  • #10
                    we do need a fans forum.
                    ALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NewarkR View Post
                      **** it, I don't care.

                      I made a suggestion to try and make this ****hole forum worth something.

                      ******** to the lot of you.
                      So you does that mean you don't know her?....Just curious thats all.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                        we do need a fans forum.
                        More waffle , and people thinking their in with the club
                        Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by superhoop67 View Post
                          More waffle , and people thinking their in with the club

                          The Club listen for the meeting and then do what they want any way.
                          Chelmsford City the home of Radio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gtleighsr3 View Post
                            The Club listen for the meeting and then do what they want any way.
                            Correct
                            Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by superhoop67 View Post
                              More waffle , and people thinking their in with the club
                              Spot on

                              Originally posted by Gtleighsr3 View Post
                              The Club listen for the meeting and then do what they want any way.
                              Spot on

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