Stop blaming Jim

[kingy10]

Now don't get me wrong there are times when his substitutions baffle me, but blaming Jim for this recent run is not acceptable.

I have to say the only people that should be blamed are the players. The same way the players take the credit when we do well, they have to take the blame. Some of the team are simple not trying. Jim alludes to it in his post match interview.

"At the minute we've just got one or two who are shying away - you need characters and you need leaders."

Tonight Routledge, Agyemang, Tarrabt were not in the least bit interested in winning the game for Rangers. OK Pat got on the scoresheet but he looked liked he was running at half pace and didn't even celebrate his goal, what kind of attitude is that from someone who should be desperate to get back in the side. Routledge looked relieved to have come off.

Why do we always have to blame the manager, these spineless players cannot lose, they earn fortunes and often cannot be bothered to give it a go and try but it doesn't matter, they still get paid and the manager will get the blame. I think its disgraceful.

I do have some sympathy for Tarrabt in that he is trying to get himself a move somewhere so wants to excel but his overplaying does nothing for the team in terms of performance and it seems to wind up the rest of the players creating an atmosphere in the dressing room. I think he may go in January.

[Receed R]

well said

tbh think we should wait until january at the very least

[Quaz]

Now don't get me wrong there are times when his substitutions baffle me, but blaming Jim for this recent run is not acceptable.

he tinkers with the team...the players don't....and takes no blame what so ever.......so people being annoyed with him is justified in my eyes.

[maddix]

Oh so that makes everything ok does it .

At my work its simple . If someone is'nt pulling their weight then my guv'nor gets on their case, sorts out disputes, pulls them into line etc & b@LLX them if need be . AND makes changes if needs be. At Rangers OURS doesn't seem to

[kingy10]

He hasn't really tinkered with the team in the last couple of months. We lost 5-1 and he has given the back-up players a chance to earn a place. Ramage/Pat/Vine/Legs in midfield.

I wasn't happy with the team selection today as I think Ramage is one of the worst players to ever have worn the shirt but it was a cold blustery wet evening on a crap pitch. Not the conditions for Buz or Adel to excel. Plus they were both awful on Saturday.

What would you have done played the same team again?

[Quaz]

He hasn't really tinkered with the team in the last couple of months. We lost 5-1 and he has given the back-up players a chance to earn a place. Ramage/Pat/Vine/Legs in midfield.

I wasn't happy with the team selection today as I think Ramage is one of the worst players to ever have worn the shirt but it was a cold blustery wet evening on a crap pitch. Not the conditions for Buz or Adel to excel. Plus they were both awful on Saturday.

What would you have done played the same team again?

yes i would have played the same team......you want to give Jim a chance why not the players.

as for tinkering...he has ruined the good defence we had......why?

[kingy10]

I think its a fair point about the defence. There have been people missing though, Stewart, Connolly, Hall. Can't remember the last time that he had a full choice of defenders to pick. I don't think he knows his best back four and if your honest how many people on this site would agree on theirs. Not many

I personally don't think any of them are good enough for a team that wants to get promoted.

We are now a very attacking team and when we lose the defensive midfielder, say Mahon or Rowlands we are very exposed. We are crying out for someone to sit in front of the back four as protection. We haven't got anyone, people say Faurlin is that man but he is not, he is a passer not a tackler.

[Quaz]

I think its a fair point about the defence. There have been people missing though, Stewart, Connolly, Hall. Can't remember the last time that he had a full choice of defenders to pick. I don't think he knows his best back four and if your honest how many people on this site would agree on theirs. Not many

I personally don't think any of them are good enough for a team that wants to get promoted.

We are now a very attacking team and when we lose the defensive midfielder, say Mahon or Rowlands we are very exposed. We are crying out for someone to sit in front of the back four as protection. We haven't got anyone, people say Faurlin is that man but he is not, he is a passer not a tackler.

he only has to look at tapes of the defence last season to see how its done at the back.....pick 4 and stick with them.
as for up front...don't think we are that good there....too many shots without a result.......too much fancy dan not enough end product.

[BennyBoyRs]

I can't believe what I'm reading here. Blaming Jim is unacceptable? I'll tell you what's unacceptable...picking Fitz Hall, time and time again. He's shocking. All of us can also see that Vine, who I feel for is not playing well so to exclude Simpson completely isn't too clever either. Yes - the players are meant to perform during the game but Jim picks the side and creates the tactics.

You'll notice that I've ALWAYS defended the manager whilst he's in charge, but no one can defend the decisions this one has made.

[silvercue]

How can you blame the players and say the manager is not to be blamed - when his ONLY role in life is to get the "team" to perform??? Yes - that means the players...he is responsible for the perfomances of the team.
Managers all know this when they take the lucrative positions.

You should always blame the manger when teams that should do better are playing badly. Of course you can't blame a manager for bad luck and individual errors. But dreadful team displays, lack of organisation, awful selection and substitution policy etc etc

Blame him all day long.

[WeAreQPR12]

Now don't get me wrong there are times when his substitutions baffle me, but blaming Jim for this recent run is not acceptable.

I have to say the only people that should be blamed are the players. The same way the players take the credit when we do well, they have to take the blame. Some of the team are simple not trying. Jim alludes to it in his post match interview.

"At the minute we've just got one or two who are shying away - you need characters and you need leaders."

Tonight Routledge, Agyemang, Tarrabt were not in the least bit interested in winning the game for Rangers. OK Pat got on the scoresheet but he looked liked he was running at half pace and didn't even celebrate his goal, what kind of attitude is that from someone who should be desperate to get back in the side. Routledge looked relieved to have come off.

Why do we always have to blame the manager, these spineless players cannot lose, they earn fortunes and often cannot be bothered to give it a go and try but it doesn't matter, they still get paid and the manager will get the blame. I think its disgraceful.

I do have some sympathy for Tarrabt in that he is trying to get himself a move somewhere so wants to excel but his overplaying does nothing for the team in terms of performance and it seems to wind up the rest of the players creating an atmosphere in the dressing room. I think he may go in January.

Superb post!

[THE FLYING COW]

WELL

JIM IS A VERY LOVELY BLOKE and im sure he would be a great singer to lead a traditional irish band
I COULD JUST IMAGINE HIM HAVING THE CRAIK
but hes not a manager

[Robsondinho]

JIM IS A VERY LOVELY BLOKE and im sure he would be a great singer to lead a traditional irish band
I COULD JUST IMAGINE HIM HAVING THE CRAIK
but hes not a manager

haha

[kingy10]

This is an extract from Jim's post match interview. How many people disagree with it? I agree with every single word.

He said: "I think that it was trying conditions. When we went a goal up, we showed a little bit of quality - it was a great finish from Patrick.

"We then needed a collective desire to get a result but in the last two games we haven't shown that - one or two harsh questions have to be asked. A week ago when we played Coventry we played very well and we had people talking about the way we played.

"I just didn't think at 1-0 that we had the real desire to go on and capitalise - and that's upsetting.

"We then conceded three goals - it's a worrying trend and something that we have to work very hard on to stop.

"Only as a group can we address this. As a group of players you've got to go out and take responsibility for your actions. You want these players to stand up and really be counted.

"We just need to restore confidence. It does come and go but you must retain self-belief.

"At the minute we've just got one or two who are shying away - you need characters and you need leaders."

[larkspur_hoop]

I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head, there is no desire to go on a win a football match unless it comes easy. Jim does need to take some responsibility for this bad run, Hall should not be in the team and Legs should not be captain. But other than that players that should be in the team and are, are simply not turning up...maybe they don't care!

Watson is becoming a major dissapointment for me, he was captain at Palace but we are not seeing those leadership skills at Ranagers, why not?
Tarrabt, as skillful a player that he is, and often a joy to watch he is not playing for the team he has to go...
Legs - Can he get any worse? his passing and attitude stinks at the moment and he is our captain, that has to change!