Akos Buzsaky

[Fez]

There is no way Buzsaky can play in the heart of the midfield, hes far too lightweight for that.

The only 2 positions he can play is on the wing or behind the striker. Its not working for him on the wing so we should switch Adel there and put Akos behind Simpson.

Last time Taarabt started on the wing was against Leicester IIRC and after about five minutes Magilton swapped him with Routledge as it was clear he wasn't going to do any tracking back that night!

[BuzsakyIsGod]

I totally understand what are saying but to play out wide doesn't mean you have to play as an orthodox winger. Buz hit 10 goals from playing right side of midfield under LDC.....was David Beckham a convential winger despite playing RM all his career.




How many games have you seen Buz play in the centre for us?

Name them!



Rubbish you don't have to play as winger to play RM or LM also Buz has turn of pace and he doesn't require constant support. Players of Buzsakys ability create space for themselves and those around them, his abilty to create something out of nothing totally contradicts your point.

Buzsaky at times has been very effective for us out wide.




I agree and when you analyse like this yes it does make sense that it could work. Faurlin can do the holding role no question asked IMO and he is a better player than Watson. Buzsaky is also far more combative than what people give him credit for, is strong and also wins his fair share of headers.

To simply sit him behind the front 2 or loan striker would make him too much of a luxury epsecially in this division. The only way Buzsaky could trully control a game is if he is playing as a proper centre midfielder box to box but in a slightly more advanced role to his CM partner. We have never seen him play in this position though we know he has the ability but I just can't help thinking there is a reason why he doesn't.....not one manager for us has played him there!

He hasn't played that many in the centre but I feel he plays better there than on the wing as he isn't a winger. He is also effective when playing behond the striker again hasn't played many there but is more effective in these two position than on the wing!

[pkloft]

in all seriousness i was trying to find a place for them all WR AB AF & AT but because the squad is so unbalanced only 1 right back that's why legs has got to fill in there, up to the other day 1 left back (well some say he is)

absolute bundles of midfielders, then there's the "forward" Simpson, you trying to tell me our squad isn't unbalanced?

if you read sirpie's statistics on shots on target & goals scored ratio you might change your mind (that's if your allowed too) as he deals in FACTS midfielders playing up top are not as good as natural forwards....FACT

well Pete!!!

[W12_Ranger]

He hasn't played that many in the centre but I feel he plays better there than on the wing as he isn't a winger. He is also effective when playing behond the striker again hasn't played many there but is more effective in these two position than on the wing!

I just feel that is more as an assumption as opposed to an opinion built on something concrete.

Why can't people on here differentiate between a winger and someone playing on the LHS or RHS of midfield....am I the only person who understands the difference? Its down to tactics, when Buzsaky plays wide he isn't expected to skin a man like Routledge and whip in crosses at every oppurtunity like Cook.

[Robbo]

I just feel that is more as an assumption as opposed to an opinion built on something concrete.

Why can't people on here differentiate between a winger and someone playing on the LHS or RHS of midfield....am I the only person who understands the difference? Its down to tactics, when Buzsaky plays wide he isn't expected to skin a man like Routledge and whip in crosses at every oppurtunity like Cook.

Exactly.
More of a Beckham than a Lennon.

[Stanley]

True wingers are an entity all of their own - theyre neither a midfielder nor a striker. Dave Thomas, Peter Barnes, Gordon Hill, from yesteryear. Routledge, Lennon, Ronaldo from today

As W12 rightly says, playing right or left midfield is a completely different ball game.

[paulmason]

I agree routledge right taarabt left and buz behind the striker, i was just saying if buz got bogged down and wasnt having any luck we could try tarrabt or routledge there....

If Buzz is having no joy, sub him with Vine but you don't take players from their prefered positions that's crazy and weakens the team.

[paulmason]

I just feel that is more as an assumption as opposed to an opinion built on something concrete.

Why can't people on here differentiate between a winger and someone playing on the LHS or RHS of midfield....am I the only person who understands the difference? Its down to tactics, when Buzsaky plays wide he isn't expected to skin a man like Routledge and whip in crosses at every oppurtunity like Cook.

What is is supposed to do then, put his foot on the ball until their defence gets back and the chance has gone ? Also if you have players that can do what you say Buzz is not to expected do, why in gods earth would you not play them there.

[paulmason]

Same scenario at Liverpool which is going to End up costing the stubborn manager his job. Because he wants to play others in CM, he playes Gerrard on the left where he is less effective and they are now 1 win in 10 I think.

[sirpiechucker]

Same scenario at Liverpool which is going to End up costing the stubborn manager his job. Because he wants to play others in CM, he playes Gerrard on the left where he is less effective and they are now 1 win in 10 I think.

The difference for me with the Liverpool situation is that Benitez has had 6 years to form a squad of players whereas Magilton has had just 6 months. Benitez has had ample time to make sure that he has at least two for every position so when injuries do occur he shouldn't have to play players out of positions. Magilton has had to bring in loanee after loanee to try and make it his team and do the best he can we what he has.

So I agree with what you are saying but Rafa only has himself to blame.

[paulmason]

The difference for me with the Liverpool situation is that Benitez has had 6 years to form a squad of players whereas Magilton has had just 6 months. Benitez has had ample time to make sure that he has at least two for every position so when injuries do occur he shouldn't have to play players out of positions. Magilton has had to bring in loanee after loanee to try and make it his team and do the best he can we what he has.

So I agree with what you are saying but Rafa only has himself to blame.

That is true but its madness to play Routlede or Tarabbt behind Simpson as they dont have the brains to interact with Simpson, whereas Buzz does. Also, going back to left side of midfield comment, why is Faurlin not playing that position ?

PS: Thanks for the great stat you pm'd me.

[WeAreQPR12]

Paul I agree.
Moving Buzz behind Simpson would make alot of sense.
He would also score more goals in that position and it would suit him to have a free role, ie. no responsibiltys

[baz]

He has never played in a free role for us, correct me if I'm wrong please but I can't ever recall a match?

There has to be very good reason why that is the case De Canio, Dowie and Magilton all have played him out wide.

It's pure speculation to suggest he would adapt to a free role, personally I think Taarabt is more suited as he does what he wants anyway.

Incorrect - He started playing in the hole under Di Canio until Di Canio was told to play 4-4-2 and then he was moved out to the right.

Buzzacky is not playing well because the midfield is not functioning at all all to often he is receiving the ball in an isolated position. When Mahon and Faurlin were playing in the middle it functioned and Buzz and Faurlin interacted very well.

We have a major problem at the moment in that the balance is all wrong and it seems to be so to accomidate Watson who apart from the first coiuple of games alongside Rowlands has been utter toilet and vastly overhyped.

[paulmason]

Incorrect - He started playing in the hole under Di Canio until Di Canio was told to play 4-4-2 and then he was moved out to the right.

Buzzacky is not playing well because the midfield is not functioning at all all to often he is receiving the ball in an isolated position. When Mahon and Faurlin were playing in the middle it functioned and Buzz and Faurlin interacted very well.

We have a major problem at the moment in that the balance is all wrong and it seems to be so to accomidate Watson who apart from the first coiuple of games alongside Rowlands has been utter toilet and vastly overhyped.

Owen Coyle seemed to manage promotion last year by playing a limited amount of players, in an awful lot of games. He did not chop and change for the sake of it, if the player was fit to play, he played, otherwise he replaced that player not the entire formation.

[Bluehoop]

True wingers are an entity all of their own - theyre neither a midfielder nor a striker. Dave Thomas, Peter Barnes, Gordon Hill, from yesteryear. Routledge, Lennon, Ronaldo from today

As W12 rightly says, playing right or left midfield is a completely different ball game.

Now there's 3 top quality wingers that would fit the bill perfectly - can you invent an age reducing serum for any of them

On Buzz, there's some interesting comments on all sides and I really don't know who to agree with. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the fact he missed a lot of game time last season - he has come back well and looks back to fitness but many players report an incomprehensible fatigue in the season after a long lay off - and maybe, just maybe this is affecting his game more than we know?