Handball or Dive Wins Promotion For QPR

[paulmason]

I was waiting for you to post some stupid comparison and funny how you cant read.

http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37283&page=3

"If he is not guilty of the the things they said he done, I hope he clears his name and takes the FIA to the cleaners, as they potentially have done to him"

[stanistheman]

That would make up some how in a weird way for the penalty that should not have been given against Spurs in the Cup Final, the Man Utd goal in the 99th minute that relegated us and loads of other decisions that have not gone our way over the years and as it is viewed as part of the game now, its accidental handball and promotion for me.

PS: I support use of Video replays which would get rid of this b00llocks overnight, if the t00sers let it be used, but it will never be discussed until the French get cheated out of the Euros or world cup like the Paddy's did last night.

Or how about Micklewhite's disallowed equaliser in the 82 replay, because Fenwick was running back from an offside position but in no way interfeering with play or the keeper's line of vision?

Perhaps if Switzerland are robbed of a result, Sepp Blatter might try and get video technology introduced. Hopefully someone will cheat and knock them out of the 2010.

Bad decisions have dogged football since it started.

As a Southern League club, QPR (Champions) were done out of a place in the First Division in favour of Spurs who finished labout 3rd, or Arsenal who were re-instated to the division after bribing officials.

[Stanley]

Its cost the Irish economy 20 billion in lost earnings. The ramifications of last nights blatant cheating by Henry are far bigger than the other examples mentioned above (Eduardo, Drogba, Rooney etc) . It was a place at the world cup at stake here.

Its been reported that even the french players feel ashamed about the events of last night and the mood of the nation is that it was an empty and hollow victory. They even accept that Ireland were the better team. Bixente Lizarazou is quoted as saying the heads are bowed in shame. French journalists are saying they feel 'nauseous'. And what does this do to Henry's reputation now.

IMO cheating is ruining the game we all love and any semblance of 'sportsmanship' is rapidly dissapearing from the 'sport'.

The game is being brought into disrepute and its setting the most appaling example to youngsters coming into the game. Where are the future role-models?

Back to the original question:

Last game of the season, would you want the game replayed??

IF it was clearly proved with video evidence then yes, of course, or at the very least some form of sanction. Otherwise the game is ruined forever. It no longer becomes an evenly and fairly fought contest between two teams, and ultimately the cheaters will have won.

Ask yourself, is that honestly what you want? Get a bit of perspective and see the bigger picture guys.

[paulmason]

Its cost the Irish economy 20 billion in lost earnings.

That cancels out the money they took as a bribe to vote yes for Lisbon treaty. What Europe give with one hand, they take with another.....

[Gtleighsr3]

they dont need bribes they had plenty of handouts like spain etc over the yrs.

[Nodge70]

Or how about Micklewhite's disallowed equaliser in the 82 replay, because Fenwick was running back from an offside position but in no way interfeering with play or the keeper's line of vision?

Perhaps if Switzerland are robbed of a result, Sepp Blatter might try and get video technology introduced. Hopefully someone will cheat and knock them out of the 2010.

Bad decisions have dogged football since it started.

As a Southern League club, QPR (Champions) were done out of a place in the First Division in favour of Spurs who finished labout 3rd, or Arsenal who were re-instated to the division after bribing officials.

1908 - Spurs were awarded "our" place due to their FA Cup exploits and as the Football League wanted a presence in the expanding North London area (at this time Arsenal were still Woolwich Arsenal playing in Plumstead) and already had Chelsea (incidentally elected to the new Div 2 without EVER playing in a competitive match - the only time this has ever happened) and Fulham in west London. This despite us averaging crowds twice that of Spurs at the time.

[stanistheman]

That cancels out the money they took as a bribe to vote yes for Lisbon treaty. What Europe give with one hand, they take with another.....

Ha ha, that's great.

But in all seriousness, I agree with Stanley.

this is blatant cheating. They ban players and take away their titles in athletics for performance enhancing drug taking, as it is cheating. So why not apply the same rules in Football?

[Bernie's Barnet]

I was waiting for you to post some stupid comparison and funny how you cant read.

http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37283&page=3

"If he is not guilty of the the things they said he done, I hope he clears his name and takes the FIA to the cleaners, as they potentially have done to him"

That's fine, but the question was what would your reaction be to a QPR player cheating to win us promotion. And your answer was well it would be okay as it would make up for decisions that previously went against us.

So you are saying it's okay for QPR players to break the rules, but apparently it isn't okay for Flav to break the rules.

What's the difference?

[paulmason]

Ha ha, that's great.

But in all seriousness, I agree with Stanley.

this is blatant cheating. They ban players and take away their titles in athletics for performance enhancing drug taking, as it is cheating. So why not apply the same rules in Football?

Stan I agree and as i said, I support the use of Video evidence and if you look at Rugby, Cricket, Tennis to name a few sports to embrace it, it actually ads to the excitement.

[paulmason]

That's fine, but the question was what would your reaction be to a QPR player cheating to win us promotion. And your answer was well it would be okay as it would make up for decisions that previously went against us.

So you are saying it's okay for QPR players to break the rules, but apparently it isn't okay for Flav to break the rules.

What's the difference?

Bernie, what's your problem mate, as you keeping digging at me becuse my oppinion is not the same as yours. I know its hard for you to read /understand other opinions so I will highlight the important bits for you.

" as it is viewed as part of the game now, its accidental handball and promotion for me" AND "PS: I support use of Video replays which would get rid of this b00llocks overnight"

Leave me alone now, please.

[Nodge70]

Stan I agree and as i said, I support the use of Video evidence and if you look at Rugby, Cricket, Tennis to name a few sports to embrace it, it actually ads to the excitement.

Video evidence in rugby is hollow.

Blood capsules, blood injuries, Neil Back's errant cheating in the last minute of a Heineken Cup Final - tries not touched down - all missed by video evidence. The referral system in cricket is completely up in the air and being argued about by ICC members.

The only sport it works almost seamlessly in is with the NFL's challenge system with the loss of time out as a penalty for any challenge lost.

[Bernie's Barnet]

Its cost the Irish economy 20 billion in lost earnings. The ramifications of last nights blatant cheating by Henry are far bigger than the other examples mentioned above (Eduardo, Drogba, Rooney etc) . It was a place at the world cup at stake here.

Its been reported that even the french players feel ashamed about the events of last night and the mood of the nation is that it was an empty and hollow victory. They even accept that Ireland were the better team. Bixente Lizarazou is quoted as saying the heads are bowed in shame. French journalists are saying they feel 'nauseous'. And what does this do to Henry's reputation now.

IMO cheating is ruining the game we all love and any semblance of 'sportsmanship' is rapidly dissapearing from the 'sport'.

The game is being brought into disrepute and its setting the most appaling example to youngsters coming into the game. Where are the future role-models?

Back to the original question:


IF it was clearly proved with video evidence then yes, of course, or at the very least some form of sanction. Otherwise the game is ruined forever. It no longer becomes an evenly and fairly fought contest between two teams, and ultimately the cheaters will have won.

Ask yourself, is that honestly what you want? Get a bit of perspective and see the bigger picture guys.

Excellent, excellent post. The irish economy is on its knees, far worse than over here, and the boost that having a team at the World Cup would have given to the retail sector over there would have been significant.

I agree 100% with you, no matter who the team is, no matter what the occasion, this type of filth is infecting football and needs to be stamped out by the football authorities. Until long term bans are handed out to players and results are overturned where cheating has without doubt (i.e. incidents as clear cut as last night, not debatable penalties) contributed to a result, then football will inevitably descend further and further into the gutter.

[Pal]

Does anyone remember Devon Whites 'punched' goal?
Funny as fuk when it's for you, not so funny if it's against you.

[Stanley]

Excellent, excellent post. The irish economy is on its knees, far worse than over here, and the boost that having a team at the World Cup would have given to the retail sector over there would have been significant.

I agree 100% with you, no matter who the team is, no matter what the occasion, this type of filth is infecting football and needs to be stamped out by the football authorities. Until long term bans are handed out to players and results are overturned where cheating has without doubt (i.e. incidents as clear cut as last night, not debatable penalties) contributed to a result, then football will inevitably descend further and further into the gutter.

Thanks Bernie, I do try ;-)

"Infected" - yes, a good word to describe the game now. Sadly, big business is winning out over FIFA's joke of a 'fair play' campaign.

Albert Camut, the great philospher and goalkeeper once said:
"All that I know most surely about morality and obligation, I owe to football".

A far cry from those days indeed...and yet we say the game has progressed?

[paulmason]

Was that away at Norwich when he scored a hatrick. That day was one of the finest away days I have ever had.