Something in the air?

[FurtiveFox]

Don't think anyone would argue Newcastle and Reading not good performances and results. However look at us overall and was extremely poor and at most other clubs manager would not have survived and nor should he have.

[stanistheman]

You forgot a great result at Newcastle and beating Reading away. But hey, I'm sure you just forgot those 2 eh?

Reading away was in January and Newcastle was 1st Feb.
in between those they managed to lose at home to Burton.

Not sure what you are talking about. Are you saying these are the only games we won?

I know what I am talking about but I am not sure that all of you do.

They didn't win may more games under Holloway.

Apart from those I listed, they beat Wolves and Ipswich at the turn of the year then forest to save themselves from relegation.

They managed to lose against Burton, Blackburn Huddersfield and Preston as well. they got draws against Fulham and Leeds away and I think the rest were defeats.

Derby Villa Brighton Sheffield Weds Bristol City Brentford and Norwich

The convenience of temporary amnesia?

As I said, I think you and others have amnesia and no not what you say.

[jmelanie]

That was earlier on in the season under jimmy

We're talking about the decent run we went on under Holloway

The draw against Fulham was under Olly.

[stanistheman]

Don't think anyone would argue Newcastle and Reading not good performances and results. However look at us overall and was extremely poor and at most other clubs manager would not have survived and nor should he have.

absolutely true. they also played well at Leeds and should have won the game, but mostly they were p*** poor against most of the other teams, apart from a few good spells in the games.

But let's all be blinkered and think that Ollie will get it right or let's get real and realise they will not and he will be sacked before Christmas. By which time it will be another long struggle and one that they might not survive.

[stanistheman]

Yes it was, when that run was that you are talking about. That run ended the week before the international break in February. So yes, it's the same run.

Ollie managed two decent run of games.

wins over Ipswich, Wolves, Reading and draws against Newcastle and Fulham, but these included some defeats Blackburn in the cup and Burton, both at home.

After this came defeats at Blackburn and home to Huddersfield.

The next run of 7 games saw wins over
Birmingham, Wigan, Cardiff, Barnsley and Rotherham and a draw at Leeds with a defeat at Preston somewhere in the middle.

That was it. Hardly spellbounding brilliant form under Ollie now is it?

[Ginger Ninja]

Ollie managed two decent run of games.

wins over Ipswich, Wolves, Reading and draws against Newcastle and Fulham, but these included some defeats Blackburn in the cup and Burton, both at home.

After this came defeats at Blackburn and home to Huddersfield.

The next run of 7 games saw wins over
Birmingham, Wigan, Cardiff, Barnsley and Rotherham and a draw at Leeds with a defeat at Preston somewhere in the middle.

That was it. Hardly spellbounding brilliant form under Ollie now is it?

That wasn't the point, the point was we didn't just have good results under Ollie against relegation fodder.

[norfolk ranger]

Think we do have potentially an ok squad,need 2-3 good championship standard players,a system of play that suits and a settled side. Not expecting us to spend a fortune but do need to be doing something soon. The big problem is holloway,he thinks he is some tactical mastermind where the truth is he most certainly aint.

[Shania]

With Holloway in charge they will probably see what he can do with what we have.

[Cjskinz]

Ollie managed two decent run of games.

wins over Ipswich, Wolves, Reading and draws against Newcastle and Fulham, but these included some defeats Blackburn in the cup and Burton, both at home.

After this came defeats at Blackburn and home to Huddersfield.

The next run of 7 games saw wins over
Birmingham, Wigan, Cardiff, Barnsley and Rotherham and a draw at Leeds with a defeat at Preston somewhere in the middle.

That was it. Hardly spellbounding brilliant form under Ollie now is it?

The team were playing very well mostly in the first run of 6 losses, but not getting the result they deserved. They then went on to be the form team in the championship. Only when IH started rotation did we start to deserve to lose (mostly) and play poorly.

But as you point out we lost to Derby (better players & manager) Villa (more experienced manager and spent mega £) Brighton (Promoted) Sheffield Weds (play offs) Bristol City (Good solid team) Brentford (outplayed us not for the first time) and Norwich (spent mega £) so can't really complain about defeats against those

[erikmata]

That wasn't the point, the point was we didn't just have good results under Ollie against relegation fodder.

And beating relegation fodder is really important as well.. not to be forgotten!

[loftbalcony]

4 30 minute quarters at the posh tomorrow, surely a tactical genius?!

[Southport]

4 30 minute quarters at the posh tomorrow, surely a tactical genius?!

If he can get 4 wins he will be!

No, I'm not expecting that either. Still none of this matters, we can lose every game pre-season. If we start with 3 wins in August when it matters, all will be good!

[stanistheman]

That wasn't the point, the point was we didn't just have good results under Ollie against relegation fodder.

3 draws and a win against Newcastle Fulham Leeds and a win at Reading from 30 farking matches, are you having a laugh.

Dress it up anyway you want i.e. played well just didn't get the results, rub of the green etc, but quite frankly, Holloway is a disaster, and although the squad isn't necessarily awful, he cannot coach or manage them to achieve anything more than a relegation fighting outfit.

[Norths]

The point made, stanis, is that we were the form team while using a settled team. Outside of that run, but still using a settled team, we more than held our own against better opponents. That can't be argued against.

Once Holloway started chopping and changing, that's when the problems began.

[Bluehoop]

The point made, stanis, is that we were the form team while using a settled team. Outside of that run, but still using a settled team, we more than held our own against better opponents. That can't be argued against.

Once Holloway started chopping and changing, that's when the problems began.

Careful Norths, stating this sort of accurate content could get you into the no nothing bracket us clueless posters have been moved to