We have not taken 1 step forward under this guy so think the moonwalk is more of our dance.
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I think a lot depends on what he'd want for us. If Tony wanted to sell for a realistic price for a Championship club with very few valuable assets other than the ground, then for sure there would be plenty of interested parties. If he in some way wanted to recoup a decent amount of the 10's of millions of quid he's wasted in the 5 years hes been here then he'd have no chance.
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If he could sell he would but he can't because his involvement at QPR is not about the football on the pitch but about what he get off the pitch from it.(OOC). All the I care crap he spins is rubbish because remember he is a West Ham supporter who tried to buy them with the same thing in mind. Olympic Stadium!
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Originally posted by 1973 ranger View PostIf he could sell he would but he can't because his involvement at QPR is not about the football on the pitch but about what he get off the pitch from it.(OOC). All the I care crap he spins is rubbish because remember he is a West Ham supporter who tried to buy them with the same thing in mind. Olympic Stadium!
Yes, he's a West Ham fan, but so what? How many chairmen actually support the club they own? You think Abramovich grew up with a hard on for Chelsea? And look at it the other way, Chris Wright was supposedly a QPR fan but that didn't stop him from forcing us into administration and leaving the club hamstrung with debt ever since.
I honestly think that Fernandes believed he could make us a top side when he joined. I think he thought he could do what Abramovich did at Chelsea and what the Arabs were in the process of doing at Man City. Bear in mind that Fernandes was a young guy (in billionaire terms), who had been immensely successful in the years running up to buying QPR. He'd gone from being Richard Branson's CFO to buying a failing airline and making it an extremely successful international business. The guy probably thought he could do anything. This is typically the nature of guys who become extremely rich. They typically are open to risk and extremely confident in their own abilities.
Unfortunately the reality has been very different. Fernandes surrounded himself with too many people that either had no idea about football or had only their own interests at heart. He has squandered 10 of millions and we're sat 15 or 16 league places below where we were when he arrived. That's life I'm afraid but the outcome certainly doesn't make Fernandes a bad person or a failure, I commend his balls and enthusiasm (even if I do think he's been very niaive at times).
I see a lot of fans trying to paint him as some sort of pantomime villain, saying things like "you never see him at Loftus Road anymore" or "he only cares about Old Oak Common". You know what, I'm not surprised you don't see him at Loftus Road anymore, have you seen how much crap he's had to deal with over at Air Asia? Plummeting revenues, plain crashes etc. Would you care about football if you felt responsible for the death of 162 people? What's he gonna do, walk out on his multi-billion dollar airline business during a crisis cos the QPR fans would like to see him at the match every weekend?
With regards to Old Oak Common, it's clear Fernandes sees an opportunity to do something that will benefit the club, the community and hopefully will make him some money. Fair play to him. If I'd just spunked the best part of 200m quid over the course of 5 years I'd be looking for ways to recoup some of it too. I hope he makes a success of it.
At the end of the day Fernandes is a business man. If he sees opportunities to make a coin and it doesn't negatively affect any of his other business interests why should he be criticised for that? If you want to dislike the bloke then dislike him cos he hasn't made a success at QPR. Don't go looking for dirt that ain't there!Last edited by Tarbie; 11-11-2016, 11:03 AM.
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Tarbie, Your post makes sense re his Airline as all that stuff means more than our club as for looking for dirt no mate not looking for anything just see him and sport do not work and the best part 5 odd years down the line the same mistakes are being made and that from a successful businessman is no good for the businees you own or front.
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Originally posted by 1973 ranger View PostTarbie, Your post makes sense re his Airline as all that stuff means more than our club as for looking for dirt no mate not looking for anything just see him and sport do not work and the best part 5 odd years down the line the same mistakes are being made and that from a successful businessman is no good for the businees you own or front.
I still however believe he deserves our respect. I genuinely believe he has always had the best interests of the club at heart and he has always done the best he can by us. He's also ploughed in a load of his own cash in an effort to make amends for his mistakes.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View PostNonsense, why would a guy come into club and start chucking money around the way he did if he was only interested in his own financial gain? It makes zero sense!
Yes, he's a West Ham fan, but so what? How many chairmen actually support the club they own? You think Abramovich grew up with a hard on for Chelsea? And look at it the other way, Chris Wright was supposedly a QPR fan but that didn't stop him from forcing us into administration and leaving the club hamstrung with debt ever since.
I honestly think that Fernandes believed he could make us a top side when he joined. I think he thought he could do what Abramovich did at Chelsea and what the Arabs were in the process of doing at Man City. Bear in mind that Fernandes was a young guy (in billionaire terms), who had been immensely successful in the years running up to buying QPR. He'd gone from being Richard Branson's CFO to buying a failing airline and making it an extremely successful international business. The guy probably thought he could do anything. This is typically the nature of guys who become extremely rich. They typically are open to risk and extremely confident in their own abilities.
Unfortunately the reality has been very different. Fernandes surrounded himself with too many people that either had no idea about football or had only their own interests at heart. He has squandered 10 of millions and we're sat 15 or 16 league places below where we were when he arrived. That's life I'm afraid but the outcome certainly doesn't make Fernandes a bad person or a failure, I commend his balls and enthusiasm (even if I do think he's been very niaive at times).
I see a lot of fans trying to paint him as some sort of pantomime villain, saying things like "you never see him at Loftus Road anymore" or "he only cares about Old Oak Common". You know what, I'm not surprised you don't see him at Loftus Road anymore, have you seen how much crap he's had to deal with over at Air Asia? Plummeting revenues, plain crashes etc. Would you care about football if you felt responsible for the death of 162 people? What's he gonna do, walk out on his multi-billion dollar airline business during a crisis cos the QPR fans would like to see him at the match every weekend?
With regards to Old Oak Common, it's clear Fernandes sees an opportunity to do something that will benefit the club, the community and hopefully will make him some money. Fair play to him. If I'd just spunked the best part of 200m quid over the course of 5 years I'd be looking for ways to recoup some of it too. I hope he makes a success of it.
At the end of the day Fernandes is a business man. If he sees opportunities to make a coin and it doesn't negatively affect any of his other business interests why should he be criticised for that? If you want to dislike the bloke then dislike him cos he hasn't made a success at QPR. Don't go look for dirt that ain't there!“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
Will Danaher
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