How does warnock do it !

[Jeems]

What was predictable was that Warnock was more likely to be successful at this level than JFH.

And what is also predictable is that NW will fail in the Premier League which is ultimately where we'd like to remain established.

[Timmy the Doc]

And what is also predictable is that NW will fail in the Premier League which is ultimately where we'd like to remain established.

Is this a joke?

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

This ship has sailed, but it can't be denied he should have been installed as manager instead of either of the last two fools if the owners wanted us up.

[nanocopic]

Is this a joke?

Jeems is fully correct, Warnock would be a failure in the premiership. He was relegated with Crystal Palace. He was sacked by us after 8 games without a win, falling from 9th to 17th (ultimately proved right to get rid as we did stay up) and he was sacked by Crystal Palace, where he won 3 of 16. His managing style does not work in the premiership.

[jmelanie]

Warnock didn't have any interest in the QPR job as his wife had cancer. 3 months later the Rotherham.job came up and his wife saw how much he wanted to try and missed it so they worked out a scenario so he could be at home as much as possible with his wife. Rotherham is much closer to their city and where I imagine all his wife's support is outside of Neil. This summer he still didn't sign on to a club, he said he didn't want to stay at Rotherham because it would have been for the wrong reasons which I assume means near home and getting paid but not for the best of the club. This is why over and over again I have said he is no longer a long term.manager because he isn't. He has other priorities. And we need long term, we don't need to just bring in a mix of PL rejects to shoot up the table and then ultimately drop back down. We rightfully haven't even considered getting rid of Jimmy so all this talk of another manager is futile.

I thought he lived in Devon or Cornwall. That's no way near Rotherham. Also we don't know if he was even offered the job.

Not sure who "we" is but there is plenty of talk on here of replacing JFH and I really can't see that changing any time soon. As always happens eventually it will be the fans who decide whether or not to change the manager. With perhaps the exception of Warnock, our last few managers have all been replaced by pressure from the fans.

[nanocopic]

I thought he lived in Devon or Cornwall. That's no way near Rotherham. Also we don't know if he was even offered the job.

Not sure who "we" is but there is plenty of talk on here of replacing JFH and I really can't see that changing any time soon. As always happens eventually it will be the fans who decide whether or not to change the manager. With perhaps the exception of Warnock, our last few managers have all been replaced by pressure from the fans.

You were correct he does live in Cornwall. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...s-courage.html Here is article showing rest of what I said though.

We is the club, qpr, the club we support.
Then I seriously hope Hoos and Fernandes are stronger this time as that is moronic. A manager doing a perfectly good job shouldn't be sacked because of a few impatient fans.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

For the record, I'd be happy to keep jfh if he'd just wisen up on some of his poor decision making.

We're QPR, we don't deserve the best managers, but we also shouldn't have to endure snoozefest football either from a manager who seems to struggle to make some basic decisions. I get we were always going to have a couple of seasons in the wilderness but it's the whole quality, or lack of that bothers me. Atmosphere dead, no consistency, no grit, determination, and a massively visible lack of genuine quality.

Signings have been questionable too. Some have been ok, others like Al Khayati among others have been poor. If I could see him gone today I would. If he stays then so be it, just bloody liven up.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

You were correct he does live in Cornwall. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...s-courage.html Here is article showing rest of what I said though.

We is the club, qpr, the club we support.
Then I seriously hope Hoos and Fernandes are stronger this time as that is moronic. A manager doing a perfectly good job shouldn't be sacked because of a few impatient fans.

Perfectly good job?

[jmelanie]

You were correct he does live in Cornwall. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...s-courage.html Here is article showing rest of what I said though.

We is the club, qpr, the club we support.
Then I seriously hope Hoos and Fernandes are stronger this time as that is moronic. A manager doing a perfectly good job shouldn't be sacked because of a few impatient fans.

IMO and the opinion of others he is not doing a perfectly good job, otherwise we could see improvement on how we played last season. I really can't see much improvement. We are just as inconsistent, he seems unable to motivate the players. Yesterday we went down 1-0 just before half time and after the break the team should have come out determined to equalize. I didn't really see much of this happening.

In what way is JFH doing a good job and how have team performances improved from last season? Our form at home is abysmal. Away from home we have been ok, but have failed to get a result draw against the better teams.

[Timmy the Doc]

Jeems is fully correct, Warnock would be a failure in the premiership. He was relegated with Crystal Palace. He was sacked by us after 8 games without a win, falling from 9th to 17th (ultimately proved right to get rid as we did stay up) and he was sacked by Crystal Palace, where he won 3 of 16. His managing style does not work in the premiership.

That part of the post might be true, but I haven't seen much evidence that our goal is to establish ourselves in the Premier League.

[surrey_hoop]

What's predictable is people forgetting what our goals are. Do we want a short term fix? Are we in need of one? The answer, is no. We need a long term solution. That is not Warnock. It is more likely to be Jimmy than Warnock.

It's actually most likely to be neither of them. If JFH is the answer, then I haven't got a scooby what the question is.

[surrey_hoop]

We have/are trying to move on but fact is Warnock and the 2011 season in particular are the benchmark that is set for all new managers to be judged against.

Exactly this. Until someone comes in who repeats or surpasses his success with us, he will be (rightfully in my opinion) seen as the benchmark for all QPR managers who follow him. Exactly the same reason why we were all raving about GF 10 years after he left, and 15 years after his best season.

[1973 ranger]

At the end of the day Warnock came to us in March 2010 and by the August had his squad ready to go to war with. Managers like that are like gold dust especially in the championship. Blows apart the myth of needing too much time and gelling players as had half of our starting 11 join that year.

[upperloft]

At the end of the day Warnock came to us in March 2010 and by the August had his squad ready to go to war with. Managers like that are like gold dust especially in the championship. Blows apart the myth of needing too much time and gelling players as had half of our starting 11 join that year.

Good post, all that 'needs a full pre season' or 'time to gel', it's all Fanny. Just another excuse. I think Rangers need to move on but there is no denying Warnock.. what he has done for us is fantastic. Any anyone that bashes him needs there head tested.

[nasser95]

At the end of the day Warnock came to us in March 2010 and by the August had his squad ready to go to war with. Managers like that are like gold dust especially in the championship. Blows apart the myth of needing too much time and gelling players as had half of our starting 11 join that year.

A squad perfect for going to war with In this division. Once we go up, take a look at that squad and how many changes need to be made. Right now, We're slowly building up players to do well in this division and then go up and actually develop as premier league players without the need for ludicrous spending on wages of new players who are either aged and short term solutions. Of course some changes are needed but the backbone of the squad right now is of the right age and right mentality to succeed in the prem and if Warnock got near this squad, he'd give a short term boost, bring in "his players" in January, get us into the play offs and maybe even get us into the prem... then what? We leave the future of the club with a man who's unlikely to be there for long at all and has a perfect squad building sense for the Championship but none whatsoever for the Prem (Luke Young, really? DJ Campbell?).