Ben Gladwin last night

[nasser95]

Well to be fair, more often than not, we do seem to play a bit better with 10 men...

Perhaps we just need more concentrated play. With Gladwin, I dug up some info and here's how he's done this season:

A successful tackle every 3 games, but 0.7 fouls a game, he gets beaten by a dribble as many times as he successfully tackles. Offensively, he takes around 2 shots a game but hits more off target than on target. He plays a non set piece key pass once every three games and is dispossessed every 23 minutes of football, remarkably high considering how little he's played. He plays an accurate pass once every 7 minutes and has an accuracy of 66%. He's had one successful dribble this season, made no interceptions, done nothing of note really. Took a shocking free kick and his biggest individual contribution has been tackling a Watford player and inadvertently smashing the ball into a poor kid's face behind the goal.

And yet QPR have won every match he's played this season. It's unbelievable. I had friends come over to watch the Watford game and the season opener, and they kept telling me how bad this guy was and I definitely don't think he's at all good (not that I'd boo him), but he somehow has this great track record and I can't explain why. It's a weird thing, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out for the rest of the season.

[maidstone_hoop]

I'm not sure how much plainer I can put it? In my opinion, and this is going on every time I've seen him play (which is a fair few), his effort can't be questioned. He tries hard. But his shooting is poor, he can't tackle for toffee and his passing isn't any better than any of the rest of our midfield. He's a poor player, can't fault his effort, but he's not cut out for the Championship imo.
Is that clearer?

[Sanctuas35]

Sorry, Ben Gladwin is a good player! I'm glad to see people on this forum frown upon booing your own players. I've never seen an arena like Loftus Road where the concept of self-fulfilling prophesy is more relevant. When you boo a young (any?) player because he had a bad game he is not going to suddenly start playing well. It's like slapping your baby brother in the face because he took his first steps and fell over, it's just utterly ridiculous. It's not like he's trying to be ####. Anyway, he's got great technical ability for a big man, just needs confidence and to be played in the right position.

[WeAreQPR12]

Sorry, Ben Gladwin is a good player! I'm glad to see people on this forum frown upon booing your own players. I've never seen an arena like Loftus Road where the concept of self-fulfilling prophesy is more relevant. When you boo a young (any?) player because he had a bad game he is not going to suddenly start playing well. It's like slapping your baby brother in the face because he took his first steps and fell over, it's just utterly ridiculous. It's not like he's trying to be ####. Anyway, he's got great technical ability for a big man, just needs confidence and to be played in the right position.

Nice to have his dad posting on here, probably myu's biggest claim to fame have you Mr gladwin on board

[maidstone_hoop]

Nice to have his dad posting on here, probably myu's biggest claim to fame have you Mr gladwin on board

[vanhoop]

Because for some reason fans need a scapegoat.

I have no idea why, but every team at every level in every sport has one.

Gladwin had a very poor start at the club and has only minorly improved since then. Unfortunately for a lot of fans the first impression you make in the side is bloody important. If you start poorly you better turn your form around quick smart or after a couple poor games you'll become the clubs scapegoat, and in worst case scenarios that could take a couple seasons to remove.

Great post ! If your not showing it after a few games then you deserve some stick .nothing against gladwin but think his Arsenal hole must go when he steps out at loftus rd . Must be a good player hiding in there somewhere but needs some sunshine pumping up his jacks. Confidence player?

[nasser95]

Great post ! If your not showing it after a few games then you deserve some stick .nothing against gladwin but think his Arsenal hole must go when he steps out at loftus rd . Must be a good player hiding in there somewhere but needs some sunshine pumping up his jacks. Confidence player?

End of last season when he was playing, you could see he had a good touch on him for his size and had one run in particular that I recall was quite brilliant, but he never put himself in positions like that this since that game. As long as we still somehow win points with him on the pitch, I don't care how he plays, he should stay.

[West London is Rss]

I'm not sure how much plainer I can put it? In my opinion, and this is going on every time I've seen him play (which is a fair few), his effort can't be questioned. He tries hard. But his shooting is poor, he can't tackle for toffee and his passing isn't any better than any of the rest of our midfield. He's a poor player, can't fault his effort, but he's not cut out for the Championship imo.
Is that clearer?

I just wanted a little more substance away from 'I think he's f**kin sh1t' - Not exactly a pure analysis is it...

Yet we've won every game he's played in and management, who know a lot more than we do, keep playing him? Coincidence?
Have a little faith, give him some more time. Confidence can be an amazing thing in a player and you may be pleasantly surprised in a few months time...

[Shepherds Mush]

Would rather have Gladwin in the ranks than Junior Hoilett

[Ginger Ninja]

I just wanted a little more substance away from 'I think he's f**kin sh1t' - Not exactly a pure analysis is it...

Yet we've won every game he's played in and management, who know a lot more than we do, keep playing him? Coincidence?
Have a little faith, give him some more time. Confidence can be an amazing thing in a player and you may be pleasantly surprised in a few months time...

I'd wager I won't be. You cannot tell me that he has changed any game due to his ability as a footballer. I've not seen that once.

[Shepherds Mush]

I'd wager I won't be. You cannot tell me that he has changed any game due to his ability as a footballer. I've not seen that once.

To be fair he was much more of an influence on the game on Tuesday than Cousins.

[West London is Rss]

I'd wager I won't be. You cannot tell me that he has changed any game due to his ability as a footballer. I've not seen that once.

Not done a lot wrong though has he? Just because he isn't an £8m signing with a Spanish surname who smashes it in the top corner every week doesn't mean he doesn't do a job and is sh1t.
Players like Gladwin we've bought to develop over a few seasons.

I thought we'd of all learnt by now not to write players off, especially young ones! We've been surprised eventually on more than one occasion in the past... i.e. Junior Toilet as he was once known.

[nasser95]

Not done a lot wrong though has he? Just because he isn't an £8m signing with a Spanish surname who smashes it in the top corner every week doesn't mean he doesn't do a job and is sh1t.
Players like Gladwin we've bought to develop over a few seasons.

I thought we'd of all learnt by now not to write players off, especially young ones! We've been surprised eventually on more than one occasion in the past... i.e. Junior Toilet as he was once known.

Hoilett is still a write off. If we say he came to us from blackburn looking like an 8 out of 10 player, he spent most of his time here as a 3/4 out of 10 and spent his last season as a 6.

[West London is Rss]

Hoilett is still a write off. If we say he came to us from blackburn looking like an 8 out of 10 player, he spent most of his time here as a 3/4 out of 10 and spent his last season as a 6.

Yet some people still had his name in lights after (finally) a string of good performances 4 years into his contract, wanting to keep him after slating him for the previous 3.

My point on Gladwin is, it's fickle football fans - Our younger players bought out of a lower league need more time to reach their peak at a higher level, and by that I mean 2-3 seasons.
We aren't buying the finished article in players anymore, and there's a risk that comes with this new direction - it's that whereas some may hit the ground running remarkably, some may not, and it may take a little longer to reach their potential. Some may not even reach their potential at all whilst here, it's all a risk and a punt. So let's not coat the youngsters off whilst they're trying to reach their potential eh?

[Ginger Ninja]

Not done a lot wrong though has he? Just because he isn't an £8m signing with a Spanish surname who smashes it in the top corner every week doesn't mean he doesn't do a job and is sh1t.
Players like Gladwin we've bought to develop over a few seasons.

I thought we'd of all learnt by now not to write players off, especially young ones! We've been surprised eventually on more than one occasion in the past... i.e. Junior Toilet as he was once known.

Can I not just have a different opinion to you?
Look, all I'm saying is based on what I've seen of him, which was pretty much every game he played last season, off the bench or starting, and I never saw him play well. I said in another post what I perceive his drawbacks to be, and also that I can't fault his effort. Clearly the boy tries hard, I just don't think he's Championship standard. That'd be why we sent him out on loan last season.
I don't give 2 farks whether he has a Spanish surname or not, not quite sure where you got that from. And as for Hoilett, he was sh!t the entire time he was here, bar the last couple of months of last season, where I firmly believe he was playing for a contract. We are well rid of him.
Connor Washington, Massimo Luongo, Jack Robinson, Pawel Wszolek, Ariel Borysiuk...all younger players who I believe have something to offer, proving I'm not writing off players based on age. My problem with Gladwin is that I've not seen him have one good game for us, IN MY OPINION. End of story. If that still rubs you the wrong way, that's your problem I'm afraid mate.