Lost Interest

[jmelanie]

Frankly, the negative goal difference is brought about by one poor game as we all know (that's a contextual fact and is more relevant than just using the raw number like you do). In our last 5 matches, the goal difference is 0, in our first 6, the goal difference is plus 3. The Newcastle match was the blip result wise.

First 6 matches - 5th for goals scored, 8th for least goals conceded. Last 5 Matches - 10th on scored, 12th on conceded so just above midtable there.

So as I said, that Newcastle result is the key blip that makes the whole thing look worse. Now, you can think what you want and I can't blame you for thinking that we won't go up, I can understand why you do. But again, if you don't mind, instead of using a derogatory way of describing me and the way I believe the season will pan out, how about we just agree to disagree.

Also, in your opinion, who today was played out of position? Because the only one I saw was Lynch and that is because he's covering for a lack of left backs.

You could also say the positive difference is from the first two matches where we scored 5 goals and gave up none. If you discount these games our goal difference is even worse.

[1973 ranger]

Cardiff, Wigan and Fulham away makes 1 win at home acceptable?

[nasser95]

"In our last 5 matches, the goal difference is 0, in our first 6, the goal difference is plus 3."

And 3 of those goals were penalties. Since they dried up, we've seen the real QPR. Swings and roundabouts.

"But again, if you don't mind, instead of using a derogatory way of describing me and the way I believe the season will pan out, how about we just agree to disagree."

Good luck finding anyone who agrees with you. I haven't read a single other comment from anyone else who thinks we can make the play-offs, and I don't think I will either.

In terms of players being played out of position....if you can't see the wood for the trees and want to use one outlier of an example in order to support your opinion, be my guest. I'm refering to the last year under JFH, not one game.

The difference between you and I, I suppose. I don't need validation from others to hold my own opinions. If people don't agree with me, I've got no issue with it.

And I'm looking then at the last 4 games. Only players I've seen played out of position without any real reason is Borysuik against Burton and Cousins against Birmingham. Everyone else has been in a standard position that they suit (not including Lynch in the last two because that's as a result of injuries)

[surrey_hoop]

You could also say the positive difference is from the first two matches where we scored 5 goals and gave up none. If you discount these games our goal difference is even worse.

He's taking the stats out of context in order to support his argument, rather than looking at the season as a whole. We haven't kept a clean sheet since the end of August, and he thinks we're going to win 6 of our next 12....after winning 2 of our last 10, against arguably easier opponents.

[surrey_hoop]

The difference between you and I, I suppose. I don't need validation from others to hold my own opinions. If people don't agree with me, I've got no issue with it.

Fair enough, but if you're the only one with that opinion, the chances are that you're simply wrong.

[nasser95]

Fair enough, but if you're the only one with that opinion, the chances are that you're simply wrong.

Not really... A lot of people agree with Donald Trump, doesn't make him right at all, ditto for Hillary. Having an opinion that isn't controversial relative to the general consensus doesn't make you wrong. If people stopped thinking differently from how others thought, a lot of great inventions and ideas wouldn't be put forward.

[surrey_hoop]

Not really... A lot of people agree with Donald Trump, doesn't make him right at all, ditto for Hillary. Having an opinion that isn't controversial relative to the general consensus doesn't make you wrong. If people stopped thinking differently from how others thought, a lot of great inventions and ideas wouldn't be put forward.

"A lot of people agree with Donald Trump, doesn't make him right at all, ditto for Hillary."

Probably the most idiotic analogy to a football opinion I've read in a long time.

"Having an opinion that isn't controversial relative to the general consensus doesn't make you wrong."

No, but having an opinion which has no basis in fact or recent experience does.

[jmelanie]

Not really... A lot of people agree with Donald Trump, doesn't make him right at all, ditto for Hillary. Having an opinion that isn't controversial relative to the general consensus doesn't make you wrong. If people stopped thinking differently from how others thought, a lot of great inventions and ideas wouldn't be put forward.

And even more don't agree with either and have no idea who they are going to vote for. There is a place at the bottom for Other, so maybe Micky Mouse will be the next president.

[nasser95]

"A lot of people agree with Donald Trump, doesn't make him right at all, ditto for Hillary."

Probably the most idiotic analogy to a football opinion I've read in a long time.

"Having an opinion that isn't controversial relative to the general consensus doesn't make you wrong."

No, but having an opinion which has no basis in fact or recent experience does.

You don't think? Brentford last season moved from 15th place after 12 matches to 8th at the end of the season. Not inconceivable to suggest that anything is possible really. No lack of facts, it's just a lack of pessimism and negativity that drives my opinions. Also in the knowledge of the way we're trying to play compared to how Brentford were trying to play, we are (statistically) likely to get a few more wins over the course of the season by being a team that doesn't like to concede that much as opposed to being a team that doesn't like to score that much (got a full post in my section on that, worth a read). So, anything is possible.

[knocker]

Bristol City (H) - Win
Sheff Wed (A) - Draw
Brentford (H) - Win
Nottm Forest (H) - Win
Norwich (H) - Lose
Ipswich (A) - Win
Wolves (H) - Win
Rotherham (A) - Win
Derby (H) - Draw
Aston Villa (H) - Draw
Brighton (A) - Loss
Wolves (A) - Draw

22 points there, 1.83 per game, pretty decent and certainly not deluded.

That proves your deluded.

[nasser95]

And even more don't agree with either and have no idea who they are going to vote for. There is a place at the bottom for Other, so maybe Micky Mouse will be the next president.

Fingers crossed, more trustworthy than both and probably has better policies to go... but alas, this is no political debate. And the best part, is that in football, there is no predictable right or wrong answer, it's just one big grey zone with loads of shades.

[jmelanie]

Bristol City (H) - Win
Sheff Wed (A) - Draw
Brentford (H) - Win
Nottm Forest (H) - Win
Norwich (H) - Lose
Ipswich (A) - Win
Wolves (H) - Win
Rotherham (A) - Win
Derby (H) - Draw
Aston Villa (H) - Draw
Brighton (A) - Loss
Wolves (A) - Draw

22 points there, 1.83 per game, pretty decent and certainly not deluded.

So you think we are going to replace our manager. That's the only way we'll get anywhere near that number of points.

[surrey_hoop]

You don't think? Brentford last season moved from 15th place after 12 matches to 8th at the end of the season. Not inconceivable to suggest that anything is possible really. No lack of facts, it's just a lack of pessimism and negativity that drives my opinions. Also in the knowledge of the way we're trying to play compared to how Brentford were trying to play, we are (statistically) likely to get a few more wins over the course of the season by being a team that doesn't like to concede that much as opposed to being a team that doesn't like to score that much (got a full post in my section on that, worth a read). So, anything is possible.

Well we COULD win every game from now until May and win the league. The same goes for you thinking we'll make the play-offs. You're entitled to it, as at this stage it is still possible....but you deserve to be notified of how outlandish and ridiciulous that opinion is, as absolutely nothing suggests that it will actually happen. I have absolutely no idea what you are basing this optimism on, and neither does anyone else.

[nasser95]

Well we COULD win every game from now until May and win the league. The same goes for you thinking we'll make the play-offs. You're entitled to it, as at this stage it is still possible....but you deserve to be notified of how outlandish and ridiciulous that opinion is, as absolutely nothing suggests that it will actually happen. I have absolutely no idea what you are basing this optimism on.

So how come the people who suggested that we'd get relegated last season and were even worried that we'd get relegated this season, don't appreciate being called deluded for thinking such, despite how ridiculous that suggestion was. I personally see a legitimate possibility of something positive happening, yet thinking such a way gets me called deluded. Since when has negativity been encouraged ffs

[Greg1882]

Bristol City (H) - Win
Sheff Wed (A) - Draw
Brentford (H) - Win
Nottm Forest (H) - Win
Norwich (H) - Lose
Ipswich (A) - Win
Wolves (H) - Win
Rotherham (A) - Win
Derby (H) - Draw
Aston Villa (H) - Draw
Brighton (A) - Loss
Wolves (A) - Draw

22 points there, 1.83 per game, pretty decent and certainly not deluded.

Hahahahahaha. You love a stat nas so here's one for you. QPR have won one home league game this season and that was on the opening day. One. In that time we've faced footballing giants such as blackburn(bottom at the time) and Preston (winless at the time). We've also been humiliated by Newcastle who could easily have smashed us for double figures. Based on those FACTS what makes you think we will suddenly win the next 3 out of 4 at loftus road? What have you seen from this side to suggest that? We are going nowhere under Jimmy absolutely bloody nowhere