This won't work. Who's going to look at a leaflet and all of sudden start singing? The football gets the crowd going end of. The players need to give us something to react to. Don't really know what they expect, were a mid table side that plays very cautious at home.
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As some have said its the team that get the crowd going, good exiting football putting teams under pressure, giving the crowd something to cheer about, which is what we are not doing,if you go to most grounds around the country if the teams not performing the atmosphere in normally poor apart from the away support
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Originally posted by dave58 View PostAs some have said its the team that get the crowd going, good exiting football putting teams under pressure, giving the crowd something to cheer about, which is what we are not doing,if you go to most grounds around the country if the teams not performing the atmosphere in normally poor apart from the away supportYou should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
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Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostWhilst I do get this and in fairness it is human nature to react better to better football being produced, but I personally am a believer that we, as fans, should be getting the atmosphere going regardless, not using poor performances as an excuse to sit in silence.
Also, I find that sometimes (occasionally!) the atmosphere is still good so it is not as if it not possible to make it happen.
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Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostWhilst I do get this and in fairness it is human nature to react better to better football being produced, but I personally am a believer that we, as fans, should be getting the atmosphere going regardless, not using poor performances as an excuse to sit in silence.Top Scorers 2018/2019
Nakhi Wells - 8
Pawel Wszolek - 6
Luke Freeman - 6
Matt Smith - 6
Ebere Eze - 4
Joel Lynch - 3
Tomer Hemed - 3
Toni Leistner - 2
Massimo Luongo- 2
Angel Rangel - 2
Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
Geoff Cameron - 1
Aramide Oteh - 1
Jake Bidwell - 1
Jordan Cousins - 1
Summer Transfers 2019
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This more than anything makes me think the club is run by idiots
Noise in stadiums is driven by passion. You can’t fake that by handing out flyers.
There is nothing to be passionate about when you’ve got a #### manager who plays anti-safety first football. Add to that we are being told not to expect anything better than slow building and mid-table nothingness this season. The games become meaningless as no one thinks we will go down or up.
It’s no co-incidence we went so long without scoring from open play, watching that dross football hoping to nick a set piece. Not committing too many players forward leaving the front players isolated outnumbered so Henry can stay 60 yards further back on top of the centre backs so that he can later contribute his 1 tackle a game average.
Sack Hasselbaink and while they’re at it sack Karl ‘hide in plain sight’ Henry, then get a manager in who isn’t so risk averse and at least try and win a game or two
If he plays on the front foot and allows for some risk then atmosphere and attendances may improve
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Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostWhilst I do get this and in fairness it is human nature to react better to better football being produced, but I personally am a believer that we, as fans, should be getting the atmosphere going regardless, not using poor performances as an excuse to sit in silence.
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Originally posted by Route One View PostThis more than anything makes me think the club is run by idiots
Noise in stadiums is driven by passion. You can’t fake that by handing out flyers.
There is nothing to be passionate about when you’ve got a #### manager who plays anti-safety first football. Add to that we are being told not to expect anything better than slow building and mid-table nothingness this season. The games become meaningless as no one thinks we will go down or up.
It’s no co-incidence we went so long without scoring from open play, watching that dross football hoping to nick a set piece. Not committing too many players forward leaving the front players isolated outnumbered so Henry can stay 60 yards further back on top of the centre backs so that he can later contribute his 1 tackle a game average.
Sack Hasselbaink and while they’re at it sack Karl ‘hide in plain sight’ Henry, then get a manager in who isn’t so risk averse and at least try and win a game or two
If he plays on the front foot and allows for some risk then atmosphere and attendances may improve
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Originally posted by dogsrrs View PostYou have got a lot right there but while I'm not trying to bull Henry up its just nonsense to blame him he does what every manager that's been here in his time has asked him to do , Warnock came in and put a positive step on the side yet he picked Henry , imo we are playing to many that still are not quite up to the championship level and arn't capable of putting in a full shift of the graft and physical awareness
With Henry it isn’t that he does much badly. Its worse than that. It’s because he doesn’t do much at all.
So he isn’t getting stick for cocking up. He’s just not involved in the game enough and if he is, its so far back that it doesn’t influence the game but he generally gets away with making a short pass as he’s so far back that the opposition don’t pressure him. It’s far harder to make passes in the oppositions final third.
Stats show he isn’t doing a job. Considering he is so wrongly allowed by many to have no responsibility at all going forward, its amazing how ineffectual his stats are on the defensive side.
Over 10 games he averages 1.1 tackles, 1.6 clearances and 1.2 clearances. So that each game he plays he goes 1 whole half without doing any of those things.
I cant work out what this job is that it’s claimed he is doing then. Surely you would expect more than that from someone in his supposed role?
Look at Luongo for example, he averages 4.9 tackles a game, 1.6 interceptions and 1.9 clearances. At least he effects the game and can carry the ball forward and create like he did when he triggered our first goal against Fulham
Henry is a massive part of our boredom and because he generally doesn’t get involved in the game he doesn’t get noticed but he is undoubtedly holding us back. Get rid of dead weights like him and it can help the overall situation and the atmosphere
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