The daft thing is we`ve got a good squad of young players...

[topperharley]

Ok here's the thing. We know the manager wants a pressing game and the players aren't playing that from what we've seen, that much is obvious. Yet we're still suggesting the players are innocent in this whole thing? You think JFH isn't telling them to press? Of course he is, they're just not doing it at the moment. It's a rough patch, we get over it. A win, a draw and 2 losses in our last 4 is ok, if nothing special. We will deliver soon enough. But for now, the players are as culpable for their performances as the manager is.

To a degree, but it seems our attack is destined for failure when there is no emphasis on it's existence.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Play both poles and cilla and we will be a lot better than we are now.
It is absolute rubbish at the moment admittedly, but i still think it could come good with a little more time and all the new players ready.

[nasser95]

To a degree, but it seems our attack is destined for failure when there is no emphasis on it's existence.

The only thing that I think JFH is doing really wrong is sticking with Henry, because he creates a separation between defensive side and offensive side. We need to be fluid for sure. I don't think the style is as defensive as many think. In fact we generally spend more time in the opposition half than we do in our own. Look at teams like Reading, brentford, forest etc. They all play a lot in their own half. A lot more than they do in the opposition half. The thing we need to work on is actually taking shots, we're not taking many relative to our space in attack. Perhaps just getting the players to shoot from range instead of trying to force it in the box?

[Kevin Mcleod]

Hauled Henry off yesterday so i think and hope that could be the last we see of him this season.

[nasser95]

Play both poles and cilla and we will be a lot better than we are now.
It is absolute rubbish at the moment admittedly, but i still think it could come good with a little more time and all the new players ready.

If we stick to the 4231, I'd love us to play those 3 against Sunderland. Don't even care about the squad around them, give Chery a rest, even change it up to a 442 against them and play CW just for the sake of validation that he either can play that way or can't, so we can end the discussion of him once and for all. Put Ned at RB, Caulker and Lynch cb, any left back we can (preferably not Bidwell to let him rest), Put Yeni on the right, Either one of Mass or Cousins next to Ariel and Wszolek on the left.

[jmelanie]

Hauled Henry off yesterday so i think and hope that could be the last we see of him this season.

Maybe he's one of the players who has a knock.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Maybe he's one of the players who has a knock.

Nah he was getting torn a new one. Tactical.

[nasser95]

Nah he was getting torn a new one. Tactical.

Even Luongo couldn't carry him to a decent performance. Literally did nothing. Left it all for Mass to do.

[Bill]

Play both poles and cilla and we will be a lot better than we are now.
It is absolute rubbish at the moment admittedly, but i still think it could come good with a little more time and all the new players ready.

Surprise surprise

[hal9thou]

Play both poles and cilla and we will be a lot better than we are now.

If Cilla gets service he can do some damage. But we just don't set up to get anywhere near the bye line (which would also benefit SP).

When you manage a club with limited resources you have to set up according to the strengths you have. JFH has consistently failed to do this - its like well, this worked for me at Burton.

People go on about pressing, but tactically there are some very good options for setting up against it, and in fact JFHs dependency on this tactic being adopted on the park every game is in itself a sign of tactical inflexibility. Everyone knows exactly what's going to happen when we're the opposition. The other worrying aspect is his prioritising of journeymen over ability, Henry over Sandro every single time in the league, loaning JET in favour of CW and SP. Finally, arguably most worryingly, is the lack of backside in the squad, the willingness to bend over when things get tough. I hate that above everything - are they playing for him or not? Jury out on that one.

If he doesn't learn fast he's gone. It really is that simple.

[Qprtanpa1]

It seems as though there's an element of 'we should be doing better' at the current predicament.

I don't get to travel to games, so it's hard to comment with any first hand experience, but this club has no given right to be anywhere, playoff's, Championship, League 1, Premiership. The fact is we struggle, and have done ever since Warnock got us into the Premier League, to play exciting football. No team does well, be it in the table or with their fanbase, by playing without a plan focused on getting the ball in the opponents net. The Leeds game this year and the Middlesborough home game last season were the only times I've seen QPR play exciting football in the last 5 years. There have been exciting games but not exciting football.

I really like the squad, it looks like a good group of players to me, lacking a lethal striker perhaps and a true midfield commander, but it's a damn sight better than we've had for the last 4 years. I just don't understand why, after 5 managers, countless changes in personnel front and back, there's this merry go round of bad tactics, players out of position and poor, uninspiring football.

This club deserves nothing more than it gets by the way it goes about it's business on the pitch.

I couldn't agree more with this post.
We would think one would have to be totally daft not to see this after so many seasons of disappointment.

Play up tempo football with a young and very fit team pressing forward; that alone may take care of the problem of having one adequate but not sterling striker up front.

I believe we began this season well with an emphasis on building the team from the backline up, and with an insistence on training hard. Somehow JFH has lost his way, and the confidence we now hear is lacking is truly his own.

[Shania]

Ok here's the thing. We know the manager wants a pressing game and the players aren't playing that from what we've seen, that much is obvious. Yet we're still suggesting the players are innocent in this whole thing? You think JFH isn't telling them to press? Of course he is, they're just not doing it at the moment. It's a rough patch, we get over it. A win, a draw and 2 losses in our last 4 is ok, if nothing special. We will deliver soon enough. But for now, the players are as culpable for their performances as the manager is.

Ok, like you imply, It actually happens that a group of players doesn`t dare to push forward, so you could be right. After the huge loss against Newcastle I can understand their lack of confidence...

[nasser95]

I couldn't agree more with this post.
We would think one would have to be totally daft not to see this after so many seasons of disappointment.

Play up tempo football with a young and very fit team pressing forward; that alone may take care of the problem of having one adequate but not sterling striker up front.

I believe we began this season well with an emphasis on building the team from the backline up, with a full emphasis on training hard. Somehow JFH has lost his way, and the confidence we now hear is lacking is truly his own.

This is 100% the truth. Against Leeds and Cardiff, we saw what JFH wanted from the players. This is why I'm personally willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, because those performances were some of the most fun to watch in a long time from my perspective. The pressing is something we've never done as a team and seeing it in all it's glory was great. I think that some small changes will really make the difference, I really do, and as Kev says, the introduction of those 3 players could do it.

[Qprtanpa1]

If Cilla gets service he can do some damage. But we just don't set up to get anywhere near the bye line (which would also benefit SP).

When you manage a club with limited resources you have to set up according to the strengths you have. JFH has consistently failed to do this - its like well, this worked for me at Burton.

People go on about pressing, but tactically there are some very good options for setting up against it, and in fact JFHs dependency on this tactic being adopted on the park every game is in itself a sign of tactical inflexibility. Everyone knows exactly what's going to happen when we're the opposition. The other worrying aspect is his prioritising of journeymen over ability, Henry over Sandro every single time in the league, loaning JET in favour of CW and SP. Finally, arguably most worryingly, is the lack of backside in the squad, the willingness to bend over when things get tough. I hate that above everything - are they playing for him or not? Jury out on that one.

If he doesn't learn fast he's gone. It really is that simple.

This is a phenomenally good post.

Especially this: "When you manage a club with limited resources you have to set up according to the strengths you have. JFH has consistently failed to do this - its like well, this worked for me at Burton."

The sign of a great manager, not one who brings only personality or one liners, is how he adapts to the players, talent and situation around him. The jury on JFH is TRULYT out on this front, and as fans we can read it only one of two ways: stubbornness, or cluelessness.

[Qprtanpa1]

Agree with the change of personnel. Would add one to the mix, who has obvious incentive to impress: Sandro. Yes, he's not going to be a part of our future; we get it JFH. But why are you punishing our ability to transition to that future by taking a stand against perhaps the most talented player on the squad. By doing this, you are shredding any legitimate appeal for fan support, and limiting any chances we have of getting to that brighter future faster.