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[Stanley]

he's played euros football this summer and had part of a preseason with us... Pretty sure his fitness isn't too much of an issue.

He had 4 weeks off after the Euros. So fitness levels have definitely been an issue.

All it takes is an injury/suspension to Polter or Chery and he'll get his chance to start. It could easily happen.

[nasser95]

He had 4 weeks off after the Euros. So fitness levels have definitely been an issue.

All it takes is an injury/suspension to Polter or Chery and he'll get his chance to start. It could easily happen.

My point is that I hope he doesn't get it on the basis that I don't want to see the others get injured.

[Stanley]

My point is that I hope he doesn't get it on the basis that I don't want to see the others get injured.

That goes without saying, and is what most people would agree with. But the fact is that's how football works - players get their chance when another player gets an injury or suspension. It's then up to them to make the best of that opportunity.

[nasser95]

That goes without saying, and is what most people would agree with. But the fact is that's how football works - players get their chance when another player gets an injury or suspension. It's then up to them to make the best of that opportunity.

And if that comes about, I hope he does make the most of it not for his sake, as I've said, I'm not in it for my hopes that a player will do will, I'm hopeful the club will do well first and foremost. As long as someone is doing the job, I'm happy.

[Stanley]

And if that comes about, I hope he does make the most of it not for his sake, as I've said, I'm not in it for my hopes that a player will do will, I'm hopeful the club will do well first and foremost. As long as someone is doing the job, I'm happy.

I'm assuming the "not" is a typo? (If so, then we agree). Otherwise the rest of your post wouldn't make sense.

[nasser95]

I'm assuming the "not" is a typo? (If so, then we agree). Otherwise the rest of your post wouldn't make sense.

No no it's not a typo I just didn't complete the sentence. Should have said "Not for his sake, but for the sake of the club"

[West London is Rss]

You seem to think he was a summer signing... He's been here 8 months now and he's been getting coaching for 8 months from two of the top strikers in premier league history. Polter has improved ridiculously since they've come in, Conor hasn't. As I said, I hope he succeeds, but I don't think he will on what i've seen in the last 8 months.. not overnight like you put it.

Also, Polter does indeed chase the keeper down but Polter also closes down extremely intelligently when he's not chasing the keeper. If he loses the ball, he always goes to win it back. Conor just stood there whenever he plays a poor pass or took a bad touch. Polter closes down the defenders at the right times, Conor doesn't. Playing to the crowd chasing is what Mackie would do, it's headless chicken running and it does nothing when you're trying to win the ball back other than make you look like you're trying. Since you've played at such an esteemed level, you should know that not all closing down is useful. When the passes weren't great to Conor yesterday, he didn't try and make something out of them. Polter does.

As for making the runs earlier, I'm talking about when the ball is played in from wide, his reactions are really not good enough at this point, but I hope this improves.

I don't ask for fans to "be with me" on anything, if I did, I wouldn't use stats and frankly, if others did, this place would be a darn sight more boring and I'm not about to be the reason for that. I don't think CW is as good as he should be and he's not had overnight to prove it to me, he's had 8 months and he's scored 2 goals in total, one in a non competitive game. He's had 16 competitive appearances and I've said it before, but I'll say it again anyway, Polter scored a class goal on his second competitive match for a new club in a new country and still didn't get another start until the 19th of december, where he got an assist, leading into a pretty good run. So you talk about someone who hadn't been given the time to prove himself, that's Polter, not CW.

CW will get chances off the bench at best and that's where he will need to impress, just like Polter did and many others who've impressed for their clubs over the years. If he doesn't, it's a shame but it's his own fault. If he does, then good for us as a club, because we have another striker we can rely on.

And you think I've got issues with him, I said before the season started that he was capable of getting 10 league goals and I damn sure hope I'm right.

I really don't have the time you do to type out paragraphs this long... I don't even have the time or effort to read it.

[West London is Rss]

Appreciate your view and basically totally agree with you on it, although I thought Shodipo improved on his Leeds performance where he seemed a bit restricted. Here he was running at players and really trying to make things happen, even if they didn't work. Agree as well that the defence was good individually but not on the same wavelength and of course, agree on the CW point, esp about his reaction to the play, which was my point earlier.

I literally face palm everytime you post Nasser.

Shodipo touched the ball about 10 times, and did one good run and cross that I can remember. He then got subbed...
No-where near an improvement on his Leeds performance! He was much better against Leeds!

[nasser95]

I literally face palm everytime you post Nasser.

Shodipo touched the ball about 10 times, and did one good run and cross that I can remember. He then got subbed...
No-where near an improvement on his Leeds performance! He was much better against Leeds!

He did very little against leeds to be honest, don't know if you were watching that match, but he was too slow and didn't want to run at his man. When he did cross it, he slipped a couple of times and delivered an ok ball along the ground. At least against Swindon he took his full back on and ran at him, did a few stepovers and tried to get past him.

[nasser95]

I really don't have the time you do to type out paragraphs this long... I don't even have the time or effort to read it.

It takes me max 4 or 5 minutes to write up something like this. Reason being I know what I'm writing when I start, I'm not making it up as I go, so if you're going to make a point, or try to invalidate mine, try to put in a bit more effort instead of just saying "I can't be bothered to read what you write but you're still wrong anyway"

[Tarbie]

He did very little against leeds to be honest, don't know if you were watching that match, but he was too slow and didn't want to run at his man. When he did cross it, he slipped a couple of times and delivered an ok ball along the ground. At least against Swindon he took his full back on and ran at him, did a few stepovers and tried to get past him.

You for real?

I think you were watching a different game to everyone else Nas!

[hal9thou]

You do make me laugh sometimes Hal

story of my life mate ;)

But still no buyers on my generous offer......

that hasn't changed either!

[SteveQPR1975]

I was there and shopido didn't do much Washington put a shift in payed ok newguy yeni did ok both scored which is good
But actually thought Swindon were decent

[Ramsey is god]

Right, although I listened to the game on the radio last night, given that there are such contrasting opinions about the game on here, I thought I would watch the entire 120 minutes on QPR Player (you're welcome) so I could judge for myself. I even reviewed certain parts, because of course you don't get replays on Player. So here are my (relatively) objective opinions:

First up, El Khayati: I've read some absolute nonsense in this thread that he was poor and even that he was showboating. Not only did this not happen once, he was possibly our best player over the 120 minutes. He showed fantastic touches, great linking play, and was playing in superb crosses right up to the end. His fantastic one-two with Chery, then burst down the left, beating two Swindon players to cross beautifully for Conor Washington's flick and Ngbakoto's goal was brilliant. He did not shirk any tackles, he was consistently good, and of course, he scored the winning penalty. Possibly my MOTM.

Okay, the other player of contention, Conor Washington. I have to agree with Nasser and Hal here. IMO he's just not up to it at this level. He doesn't seem to have the quickness of thought - in a football sense - and is often a fraction behind the play or the move. He showed a few good touches, his flick on for the first and of course being in the right place to score, but I just can't see him making it. He's also so one-footed, it limits him, and he didn't take on and beat a player once in the entire game. Contrast with Polter who caused problems for Swindon from the moment he came on, and made that tremendous burst and pass for Chery to flick for CW to score. He may improve slightly of course, but I watched all his games for NI in the Euros and I was not impressed then. He has no finesse and is too small to be a target man, especially when the lone striker.

My other contender for MOTM would be Jordan Cousins. I really like this player. Great vision, tenacity, passing and linking play and breaks up opposition attacks. A great buy IMO.

Our newest acquisition, Yeni Ngbakoto, shows fantastic promise. Bearing in mind this was his first showing for us and in a new country to boot, he was excellent. Powerful, fast, great crosses and can beat players at will, I am very excited by him.

Unfortunately Shodipo didn't follow on from his last two outings, where he was excellent on the left, and was a bit lacklustre, but still got in some good crosses. A definite improvement for the team and maybe he was a bit tired from such a recent step up.

The defence was a bit shambolic at times, probably because they weren't used to playing together, although individually they were good in the main. Furlong strong and fast, Lynch powerful and should have scored first half with a great header that almost went in off the crossbar (where Conor Washington probably should have put it away from the rebound). Perch is certainly not up to Bidwell's standard at LB and Caulker and Hall are definitely our best centre back pairing. Henry was generally efficient and tidy and played some good and one great passes. Ingram was excellent in goal apart from that moment when he tried to play it past their striker. Two penalty saves at the end says it all.

So there you have it, a totally unbiased view of the game!

Stopped reading at the highlighted bit.

[Ramsey is god]

He did very little against leeds to be honest, don't know if you were watching that match, but he was too slow and didn't want to run at his man. When he did cross it, he slipped a couple of times and delivered an ok ball along the ground. At least against Swindon he took his full back on and ran at him, did a few stepovers and tried to get past him.

Need to cut these petty little insults out every time someone disagrees with you Nas.