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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostNot being argumentative here, but can you name one other person of his young age that has managed and doesn't want to Do It anymore. Prem or otherwise. It would be a massive backwards step imo, employing a man not involved in football, whatsoever.
The sad thing about all this is we're even having to mention the likes of Hoddle because there simply aren't any other viable English contenders out there, and what a sad indictment that is on our game. Howe in a few more years maybe, but there's really no one else at this present time.
As I say, the foreign route is a totally different story, if that's what the FA decide to go back to. But is that really what people want - another foreign coach for our national side?
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I'm sure we would all like an Englishman, but the way i see it:
Hoddle: Out of the game for too long.Only got to see Bartons comments on him to see his ancient views.
Venables: Cant believe i have to explain this one, but seeing as someone is suggesting him...He runs a hotel in spain....enough said.
Neville: One manager job, made a mess of it. Part of this coaching staff and didnt seem to offer any tactical input.
Southgate: Is this not just following the Roy / McClaren production line. Not for me, cant stand the bloke.
Eddie Howe: Far too early in his managerial career to look at.
Harry Redknapp: Made it as a manager as he has the ability to persuade club owners to part with their money. Seen it for ourselves tactically useless.
I genuinely dont see another "potential" england manager who is English. Would also be firmly against appointing any pundits on the basis they seem to know what they are talking about. Completely different profession and no indication it would work as hasnt in the past. Take Shearer for example, has no problem ripping into players / teams and poor management, yet seems to forget he took a fairly decent Newcastle side down from the prem in his 1 managerial job.
Need someone who is able to compete tactically as i feel we are centuries behind modern day tactics. Going to have to go abroad IMHO.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostPains me to say it , but you just know it's going to be Southgate,
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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View PostI'm sure we would all like an Englishman, but the way i see it:
Hoddle: Out of the game for too long.Only got to see Bartons comments on him to see his ancient views.
Venables: Cant believe i have to explain this one, but seeing as someone is suggesting him...He runs a hotel in spain....enough said.
Neville: One manager job, made a mess of it. Part of this coaching staff and didnt seem to offer any tactical input.
Southgate: Is this not just following the Roy / McClaren production line. Not for me, cant stand the bloke.
Eddie Howe: Far too early in his managerial career to look at.
Harry Redknapp: Made it as a manager as he has the ability to persuade club owners to part with their money. Seen it for ourselves tactically useless.
I genuinely dont see another "potential" england manager who is English. Would also be firmly against appointing any pundits on the basis they seem to know what they are talking about. Completely different profession and no indication it would work as hasnt in the past. Take Shearer for example, has no problem ripping into players / teams and poor management, yet seems to forget he took a fairly decent Newcastle side down from the prem in his 1 managerial job.
Need someone who is able to compete tactically as i feel we are centuries behind modern day tactics. Going to have to go abroad IMHO.
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Originally posted by Stanley View PostHoddle.
None of them had a clue vs 4-4-2 and none of them figured out the best way of playing a 4-3-3 against that set up. In a nutshell we had no movement off the ball and as many as eight England, facing backwards, static in front of our own ball which was way too slow. Movement off the ball in front of AND behind it is vital. Poor old Alli had movement but most of the time was ignored or found himself with static team mates
Look at what Eddie Jones has done to the England rugby team, loosers to grand slam and now 0-3 in Australia. He is tactically astute but the lads identify with him and he lets them have a bit of a laugh, nights off, a few beers. He got rid of a lot of dead wood and the set up now has fewer coaches and suits in tow than before. When push comes to shove, the team play for him. That's the relationship needed.
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Southgate
I, personally, think the FA will try and get Pardew in. He will reject it and we will end up with Southgate, another uninspiring manager with as much charisma as a genital wart.
Would like to see Eddie Howe get the job as I like the way he plays football, however I can't see him giving up club coaching for the England job.You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
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