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  • #31
    Originally posted by Blogandwhitehoops View Post
    Think we should hire Hughes. Proven record at so many clubs and think Stoke are going to fire him.
    Great contacts as well so we can get in some proven big name winners

    Les not working either. We need a businessman to run the club properly! Someone assocaited with the Olympics or turning other London landmarks into profitable venues.

    Would like to see someone from Spurs' backroom staff at us as well. Their record with youth is amazing and would be great if we could pinch the people responsible and have out own Harry Kane come through

    SO Hughes as manager, maybe Philip Beard (guy that did the O2) as DoF and then Chris Ramsey (Spurs youth coach) in as part of the coaching set up

    Literally can't fail
    LOL

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    • #32
      Nice to see Premiership managers like Moyes, Rogers, Flores being bandied about. Van Gaal and Pellegrini could be available soon. Why couldn't Pep have waited?
      Back in the the real world JFH needs to get his team,not inherited crap, and a pre season before judgement can be passed.

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      • #33
        The changes that need to happen to our club require patience. Shame about that !

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        • #34
          calm down, season has been dead for weeks and is going to be impossible to fully motivate everyone because of that fact. See it with every other midtable team in every division.

          selling / loaning players to prem teams and signing players from league 1.........yet people still demand we win the league?

          Obviously all hinges on our buying/selling in the summer, but would expect us to challeng for play offs next year.

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          • #35
            We have to keep JFH. A quick fix is not something I believe in.
            QPR
            Best team in the world
            Sort of

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lymehoop View Post
              I'd start the Summer signings with a big, bruising centre-back. Leicester signing Huth didn't do them any harm
              Hangeland?
              QPR
              Best team in the world
              Sort of

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Blogandwhitehoops View Post
                Think we should hire Hughes. Proven record at so many clubs and think Stoke are going to fire him.
                Great contacts as well so we can get in some proven big name winners

                Les not working either. We need a businessman to run the club properly! Someone assocaited with the Olympics or turning other London landmarks into profitable venues.

                Would like to see someone from Spurs' backroom staff at us as well. Their record with youth is amazing and would be great if we could pinch the people responsible and have out own Harry Kane come through

                SO Hughes as manager, maybe Philip Beard (guy that did the O2) as DoF and then Chris Ramsey (Spurs youth coach) in as part of the coaching set up

                Literally can't fail
                Meh
                nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                  The width of a post on Ale's sweet strike and I wonder how different this rhetoric would've been.
                  Not for me Stanley. We don't create, we can't control possession and still look vulnerable at the back. I can't see much tactical awareness, evidence of a plan B when and as required. The worst charge is that they don't always look like they'd put in a shift for the guv'nor or the badge, but it is part of his job to get them together and bang up for it. I think people are understandably reluctant to face the evidence in front of their eyes.

                  There are those who will say JFH is rebuilding. But we have no evidence whatsoever of his ability to do this. It's not his fault, he didn't appoint himself, it's further evidence of a woeful catalogue of decision making under TF.

                  Originally posted by davieqpr View Post
                  Nice to see Premiership managers like Moyes, Rogers, Flores being bandied about.
                  Had we taken the obvious course of action and given NW until this time next year to get us there or there abouts, that would have been the time to make a change - NW isn't interested in going back to the EPL - at which point people like Rogers might well have been interested.

                  If a reasonable part of the vast expenditure under TF had been dedicated to rewarding a manager of that calibre, you can bet they would have been interested. When Harry was melting down, Bilic was keen to come back to London. At which point WHU and Sam were still a united front. This was flagged up on here a long time ago. Did we even approach him?

                  Then again you may be right. Why should any of them want to work with Les as a DoF?
                  Last edited by hal9thou; 03-05-2016, 11:25 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hal9thou View Post
                    Not for me Stanley. We don't create, we can't control possession and still look vulnerable at the back. I can't see much tactical awareness, evidence of a plan B when and as required. The worst charge is that they don't always look like they'd put in a shift for the guv'nor or the badge, but it is part of his job to get them together and bang up for it. I think people are understandably reluctant to face the evidence in front of their eyes.

                    There are those who will say JFH is rebuilding. But we have no evidence whatsoever of his ability to do this. It's not his fault, he didn't appoint himself, it's further evidence of a woeful catalogue of decision making under TF.



                    Had we taken the obvious course of action and given NW until this time next year to get us there or there abouts, that would have been the time to make a change - NW isn't interested in going back to the EPL - at which point people like Rogers might well have been interested.

                    If a reasonable part of the vast expenditure under TF had been dedicated to rewarding a manager of that calibre, you can bet they would have been interested. When Harry was melting down, Bilic was keen to come back to London. At which point WHU and Sam were still a united front. This was flagged up on here a long time ago. Did we even approach him?

                    Then again you may be right. Why should any of them want to work with Les as a DoF?
                    Spot on.

                    No half decent manager worth their salt would work under a dof.

                    We are left with novices or pe teachers.
                    nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Blogandwhitehoops View Post
                      Think we should hire Hughes. Proven record at so many clubs and think Stoke are going to fire him.
                      Great contacts as well so we can get in some proven big name winners

                      Les not working either. We need a businessman to run the club properly! Someone assocaited with the Olympics or turning other London landmarks into profitable venues.

                      Would like to see someone from Spurs' backroom staff at us as well. Their record with youth is amazing and would be great if we could pinch the people responsible and have out own Harry Kane come through

                      SO Hughes as manager, maybe Philip Beard (guy that did the O2) as DoF and then Chris Ramsey (Spurs youth coach) in as part of the coaching set up

                      Literally can't fail
                      love it

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                        Spot on.

                        No half decent manager worth their salt would work under a dof.

                        We are left with novices or pe teachers.
                        I love a novice

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                        • #42
                          Good thread here, all of which begs this question: What should we expect from a QPR manager? My take: (1) leadership that inspires a team to put it all on the line every game, which includes making the entire team's fitness levels second to none; (2) a system of play that is consistent, sharp and ultimately successful; (3) an attitude that respects the fans and honors the traditions of a club not satisfied with mid-table mediocrity. On these three fronts, the jury is still out on JFH. Yesterday some took heart we lost by only one goal to a top CL team. On the other hand, as we've seen far too often of late, we're willing to accept slow, uninspired and tactic-less play that often leads to games that bore. For my money, would institute a faster, more dynamic style of play up front backed by war horses on the back line that still command speed and grit. Give JFH a chance to do this, Les an opportunity to recruit players that fit this model, and the next season could truly be the beginning of the Great QPR Comeback.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post
                            Spot on.

                            No half decent manager worth their salt would work under a dof.

                            We are left with novices or pe teachers.
                            But worse still Hits what manager worth his salt would work under a novice DOF

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by hal9thou View Post
                              Not for me Stanley. We don't create, we can't control possession and still look vulnerable at the back. I can't see much tactical awareness, evidence of a plan B when and as required. The worst charge is that they don't always look like they'd put in a shift for the guv'nor or the badge, but it is part of his job to get them together and bang up for it. I think people are understandably reluctant to face the evidence in front of their eyes.

                              There are those who will say JFH is rebuilding. But we have no evidence whatsoever of his ability to do this. It's not his fault, he didn't appoint himself, it's further evidence of a woeful catalogue of decision making under TF.



                              Had we taken the obvious course of action and given NW until this time next year to get us there or there abouts, that would have been the time to make a change - NW isn't interested in going back to the EPL - at which point people like Rogers might well have been interested.

                              If a reasonable part of the vast expenditure under TF had been dedicated to rewarding a manager of that calibre, you can bet they would have been interested. When Harry was melting down, Bilic was keen to come back to London. At which point WHU and Sam were still a united front. This was flagged up on here a long time ago. Did we even approach him?

                              Then again you may be right. Why should any of them want to work with Les as a DoF?
                              Great idea, hire Warnock, have him take us up and then replace him with a prem manager, only to find that Warnock was so good at motivating that these players don't perform as hard for another manager, but had we kept warnock, we'd have a manager who didn't enjoy the prem, didn't enjoy the tactical battle at the top of the ladder and wouldn't want to manage there, so you're left with players who don't feel motivated for other managers and a manager who doesn't feel motivated for a league. Neither works out, we're left with a new manager who can't motivate the team, no matter who he is because "they aren't Warnock" and they end up buying players who are just short term solutions to keep us at the top level and keep them in a job. Only problem is that these players are on huge wages and might come across as "mercenaries" of sort who are playing for the no-relegation bonus. Issue is, that runs out at the end of the season and naturally, should we miraculously stay up, the manager may proclaim something like "we'll never be in this situation again". The manager could be rodgers as you say, who is a youngish, developing Welsh chap with a history at top teams spending loads of money. He spends that money buying potentially talented players over the summer and working on conditioning these guys only to find that the mercenaries are still there and are shattering the dressing room. Does part of that sound sort of familiar to you?

                              The last thing you want to do is to force yourself to make wholesale changes at the top level (ie Management) or at the squad level. You motivate the players enough with one person and make it obvious he won't be there at the next level, what is their new motivation?
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                              • #45
                                To be fair to Hughes, when he said "we'll never be in this situation again", he wasn't lying - we never finished 4th bottom again!!

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