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[MYU]

Maybe this post will help explain a things?

There's a problem with pre-mod, let's say you're posts are being approved by us. One of the team members will have to look at the post before it its approval, none of us are online 24/7. The team do not get paid to sit here as we can't afford it, however we do give to charity and provide prizes which the moderators can join in with. The moderators don't feel any power, infact they feel pretty helpless most of the time due to the rules and having to make everyone understand them. Once again none of the moderators want to ban anyone.

This past month we're not even covering the running costs per day as it's been so dead, we don't want to ban a single person, we all support QPR but to look after the forum and make sure we're still here next month, we have to follow the rules from advertisers. If we go back 2 or 3 years you'll remember that we lost our ad revenue for 3 to 4 months whilst I was abroad, this was due to something now a banned member had posted. This member was still posting on here and was not banned for it, he was warned. All we were provided with is look at our rules and make sure your site follows it, they didn't tell us what it was or where to find it, we didn't even know if it was a picture from the web or something which was said on a post?

Where do I start looking? We had thousands of threads and posts within them too. How could I go through them all looking for something that they have spotted on here. Those few months I hardly slept and was doing all I could to try spot something and delete threads posts that were in violation. It took help from an outside forum that is for sites like this who require help and writing letters to ensure that this will never happen again and to be approved again.

Since then we had no choice but to be a lot more strict, I asked the team to make sure we delete or edit posts, it's either that or the site?

Some would ask "Why not use a free forum", they are not free and also have ads which they receive and pays for it, they follow the same rules. Instead of having a free forum we've decided to do it ourselves and at the same time gives us a platform to donate to charity and offer competition prizes to you.

Most of you are not aware but this site has donated above £1000 to charity over the years, and that is without asking for donations from members. That money has been donated directly from the ads from this site. People using this site are not only getting a free forum, you are part of the site which enables us to donate and offer prizes.

When we have members who come here and do as they please, they risk the whole site, our community we've built over the years and the donations to charity would stop each month as well. We have a lot to lose if we lost the site because one person didn't want to follow the forum rules.

I don't know how else I can explain it, it's not the moderators fault. As a site we all need to work together and at the same time have a few good debates. We can't control what you write or have to say, we can only moderate posts or ban a user if they don't listen.

If you've been here a while, you'll know that we're open to discussions and how we can improve things all the time. Everyone wants different things and that's why we vote so the majority win.

A few things I want from this site, we never ask for donations to keep the site from running as its a monthly cycle and it would never work. The second is that we never stop our QPR charity donations, it's what I love most about this site and I maybe the only one. To say "Thank you" to all you members we offer prizes in free competitions because we understand without you and your support none of this is at all possible. It's taken a good few years but next season, we've purchased 2 tickets from the club (full price) to give away as match day prizes.

Hopefully this little blip we're having is here until the new season starts again and when we have something to play for. To many fans think this season is over, for me and many others it's a chance to see who we can keep and try to improve our style of play ready for the new season.

[dogsrrs]

Wests, he had countless second chances mate but he kept making racist posts, so in the end the ban had to be permanent. We'd also given him countless warnings about it. He always apologised about it at first with promises of reformed behaviour, but sadly it never lasted and he kept reverting to type. So in the end he left us no choice. I know it's sad because in many other ways he was an entertaining poster.

The only way I could see his posts being racist was by those that use political correctness to prove a point the same people that walk an extra 5 hundred yards to be offended

[West Acton]

Good post MYU and never realised so much effort went into keeping forum all I can say is rather you then me but you the admin and mods do superb job and I personally appreciate it so if I ever sound ungrateful that's not intentional

If facto knew what you posted and the implications then he's a smart chap he would moderate himself I would hope as would others

[Fraggy]

Good post MYU and never realised so much effort went into keeping forum all I can say is rather you then me but you the admin and mods do superb job and I personally appreciate it so if I ever sound ungrateful that's not intentional

If facto knew what you posted and the implications then he's a smart chap he would moderate himself I would hope as would others

West's, Facto is a smart chap and I for one do miss him. However he is more than aware of the implications. Banning him was not easy, we debated for a very long time, but we also have a responsibility to defend all members.
Obviously, not all members get to read every post that is posted and complaints in the form of pm's only get seen by us.
The fact that we are currently discussing/voting on bringing Facto back, should prove to all that deep down we are a very fair bunch and our only agenda is to keep this forum active and insure there is always someone about to respond to members and help members with any issues they may face.

[Shania]

For what it´s Worth; Personally, I have nothing against Facto being given another chance.

[Bill]

West's, Facto is a smart chap and I for one do miss him. However he is more than aware of the implications. Banning him was not easy, we debated for a very long time, but we also have a responsibility to defend all members.
Obviously, not all members get to read every post that is posted and complaints in the form of pm's only get seen by us.
The fact that we are currently discussing/voting on bringing Facto back, should prove to all that deep down we are a very fair bunch and our only agenda is to keep this forum active and insure there is always someone about to respond to members and help members with any issues they may face.

I dont think your fair

[Fraggy]

I dont think your fair

I prefer strawberry blonde or mousy brown, I can be fair if left out in the sun too long

[The General]

Have to say that I have always found the mods to extremely understanding and fair.

Perhaps we could use a yellow card and red card system for close to the edge posters or 1 month sin bin system ban.

Rather than an all or nothing ban....we can then retain the top posters even if they are risky..

[Hubble]

And so we are where we are....... Or, as I find myself thinking, this forum is where it is. Without being precious, I consider the fact that I was proposed for pre moderation to be a reason to stop posting. Even if I continue to value the comradeship of many who remain on here. And I happily sucked up a one week ban for responding intemperately to a provocateur who misrepresents people and endlessly strives to shut down debate on here.

I think you basically need to wind your neck in fella in continuing to have a pop at me and completely misrepresenting me on this public forum. I am not a 'provocateur', I do not and never have 'misrepresented people' and I have NEVER striven to shut down debate. I do feel quite free to vocalise my feelings about endless 'we should have kept Warnock' threads though. As anyone else is free to do. I find you to be a self-righteous, bordering on pompous, baleful influence who seems to believe they have some kind of moral high ground, when in fact, all your doing is voicing your own one-eyed opinions.

[maidstone_hoop]

Reading through this thread is crazy.

Why are so many of the founding posters or at least b contributors who help to make this forumn being banned.

The op is 100% right in the fact this place is so quiet atm. It's quite clear now that to many of the people that made this such a good site have left and the ones that remained are being banned.

Such a shame!!

Maybe this post will help explain a things?

There's a problem with pre-mod, let's say you're posts are being approved by us. One of the team members will have to look at the post before it its approval, none of us are online 24/7. The team do not get paid to sit here as we can't afford it, however we do give to charity and provide prizes which the moderators can join in with. The moderators don't feel any power, infact they feel pretty helpless most of the time due to the rules and having to make everyone understand them. Once again none of the moderators want to ban anyone.

This past month we're not even covering the running costs per day as it's been so dead, we don't want to ban a single person, we all support QPR but to look after the forum and make sure we're still here next month, we have to follow the rules from advertisers. If we go back 2 or 3 years you'll remember that we lost our ad revenue for 3 to 4 months whilst I was abroad, this was due to something now a banned member had posted. This member was still posting on here and was not banned for it, he was warned. All we were provided with is look at our rules and make sure your site follows it, they didn't tell us what it was or where to find it, we didn't even know if it was a picture from the web or something which was said on a post?

Where do I start looking? We had thousands of threads and posts within them too. How could I go through them all looking for something that they have spotted on here. Those few months I hardly slept and was doing all I could to try spot something and delete threads posts that were in violation. It took help from an outside forum that is for sites like this who require help and writing letters to ensure that this will never happen again and to be approved again.

Since then we had no choice but to be a lot more strict, I asked the team to make sure we delete or edit posts, it's either that or the site?

Some would ask "Why not use a free forum", they are not free and also have ads which they receive and pays for it, they follow the same rules. Instead of having a free forum we've decided to do it ourselves and at the same time gives us a platform to donate to charity and offer competition prizes to you.

Most of you are not aware but this site has donated above £1000 to charity over the years, and that is without asking for donations from members. That money has been donated directly from the ads from this site. People using this site are not only getting a free forum, you are part of the site which enables us to donate and offer prizes.

When we have members who come here and do as they please, they risk the whole site, our community we've built over the years and the donations to charity would stop each month as well. We have a lot to lose if we lost the site because one person didn't want to follow the forum rules.

I don't know how else I can explain it, it's not the moderators fault. As a site we all need to work together and at the same time have a few good debates. We can't control what you write or have to say, we can only moderate posts or ban a user if they don't listen.

If you've been here a while, you'll know that we're open to discussions and how we can improve things all the time. Everyone wants different things and that's why we vote so the majority win.

A few things I want from this site, we never ask for donations to keep the site from running as its a monthly cycle and it would never work. The second is that we never stop our QPR charity donations, it's what I love most about this site and I maybe the only one. To say "Thank you" to all you members we offer prizes in free competitions because we understand without you and your support none of this is at all possible. It's taken a good few years but next season, we've purchased 2 tickets from the club (full price) to give as match day prizes.

Hopefully this little blip we're having is here until the new season starts again and when we have something to play for. To many fans this season is over, for me and many others it's a chance to see who we can keep and try to improve our style of play ready for the new season.

fair play mate for explaining and all the hard work you and the moderators put in.

Obviously we all appreciate it but due to the rule changes and advertising constraints we have obviously lost a few valid and much enjoyed posters which is a shame but certainly not your fault.

So is that 100 % it for facto and hit man?

[Stanley]

hit man?

As has already been stated on this thread, Hitman is NOT banned. He is on pre-mod and perfectly free to post as much or as little as he wishes.

[maidstone_hoop]

As has already been stated on this thread, Hitman is NOT banned. He is on pre-mod and perfectly free to post as much or as little as he wishes.

Sorry Stanley skimmed through the las t few posts and thought I saw it said he was banned somewhere.

I'm sure he'll be back at some point. Hopefully facto might get 9th life to lol

[dogsrrs]

Come on Stan give us an answer on Facto ? He's always taken more than he's given

[Stanley]

Come on Stan give us an answer on Facto ? He's always taken more than he's given

Dogs, I've already answered earlier in the thread, in response to Wests.

[Rangers77]

I think you basically need to wind your neck in fella in continuing to have a pop at me and completely misrepresenting me on this public forum. I am not a 'provocateur', I do not and never have 'misrepresented people' and I have NEVER striven to shut down debate. I do feel quite free to vocalise my feelings about endless 'we should have kept Warnock' threads though. As anyone else is free to do. I find you to be a self-righteous, bordering on pompous, baleful influence who seems to believe they have some kind of moral high ground, when in fact, all your doing is voicing your own one-eyed opinions.

Baleful influence, self righteous, possessor of one eyed opinions, seeker of the moral high ground, but only bordering on pompous....? Only? Only???? Please. I'm full on pompous if I'm anything!! Seems to me like you're doing your own popping at people, pal. And with you being a mod and all. Throw in a couple of swear words and you will get the week long ban you got me. A ban you keep threatening me with. Wind in your neck, indeed. I've just spent two hours in yoga winding it out. Funnily enough, I was just in receipt of a very sensible pm politely asking me to ratchet down the argument and consider apologising for a fight in which I have been defending myself. Even if it takes two to fight, I was more than prepared to consider that tbf, let bygones be bygones etc, but I'd look a bit of a plank if i did that now, wouldn't I? Ban me if you feel the need to. Even if I have done nothing to deserve it. l have a exemplary record of good behaviour on here, bar my intemperate response to your hijacking my thread by misrepresenting my always pompous opinion. There's loads of good folk on here I'd miss, but heigh ho. It is what it is.