5 years from now under JFH & NW?

[Rangers77]

What case??! You haven't got a case! FWIW you were very close to being put on pre-mod well before you got banned. I actually voted against it. But you keep digging that hole fella.

What hole am I digging? Disagreeing with you? That's called a hole? And has me put on pre mod or banned? Stanley, Brights, Kev, someone, have a word, please?

[Rangers77]

Honestly, I've seen not much if anything wrong with Hubble here. Just as all the other mods has an opinion, he does too. As a mod, he's got a view of the board and here he made a statement which is fairly logical based on what he's seen on the board, which is an odd number of people constantly reaffirming their desire for NW to be here and how he's done better than JFH etc every time Rotherham win a match. And every time someone says that he's a great manager for this level, such as myself or Hubble, we get called out as hating on him, or calling out those who support him, when it's merely giving an opinion.

Now I remember you getting banned and it was probably down to the language and the way you spoke to your fellow fans so brutally. I know you're above that in general but at the time, I thought you were being way too over the top with the language. In any case, calling him out for making a statement regarding an observation, just because he's a mod isn't really fair IMO.

Singular. And any fair minded person would have accepted I was provoked. I am very, very rarely rude. And I have a tendency to apologise, on the thread and in person, when I am. I am generally fair minded. And I am entitled to my view.

[Rangers77]

I'm not 'some mod', I'm a fan, expressing an opinion. But YOU keep digging me out pal, that's a fact. But how about, instead of your perpetual whinging, you actually respond to my post? What say you? Anything you can do about the fact that we've signed JFH and Colin is long gone? Wave a magic wand? How long do you want to keep moaning about it? Be good to know.

I see you edited your post after I replied. Clever. For the record I have not endlessly moaned about Warnock not being the manager once the decision was made. Hardly ever. Maybe twice? I have never once called for Jimmy to be sacked. Not a single time ever. This is the behaviour I object to. You claiming to speak on behalf of others. And wilfully misrepresenting the . Perpetual whinging, eh. What a misrepresentation that is. And, as for me keeping digging you out, I've spoken to you once before this thread, mate.

[nanocopic]

Spot on MYU,I agree completely. We would be in.exactly the sam e situation with different overpaid players still annoyed they aren't playing in the premiership.

[qprted]

well i disagree with myu if you look at the results that warnock has got and remember when warnock had qpr he had a multi stared full international set up with playerrs like sandro leroy fer etc
even without wasting any money on big transfers like conor washington warnock has smashed everything that has gone up against him
so with out any doubt warnock who was only two points adrift from the play offs would have taken us up
SO THE REALITY IS ONLY BRIAN CLOUGH AND NEIL WARNOCK COULD HAVE SAVED ROTHERHAM MANAGERS LIKE THEM ARE ONE IN A MILLION AND IM REALLY SAD THAT WE LOST WARNOCK FERDINAND SHOULD HAVE TALKED HIM INTO STAYING THAT INABILITY TO GET EITHER GERRY FRANCIS OR NEIL WARNOCK INTO OUR SYSTEM WILL COST US DEAR
this is of course only my opinion i would love to be proved wrong but i fear next season warnock will win this division

[skranger]

Well what's he's done at Rotherham is nothing short of a miracle ... They were doomed when he took over

There no denying that he is a class act in this division ,,,, I for one would not have minded if he had stayed

[Stanley]

Stanley, Brights, Kev, someone, have a word, please?

'77, I consider Hubble a friend and there is no way I'm going to do that. I like him as a poster and often find myself agreeing with his views. Similarly I also like you as a poster and often find myself agreeing with your views. You are a character on here who can often be outspoken and not afraid to speak your mind or follow the crowd. The two of you are mature adults who've both spoken your mind on this thread, you've exercised your right to reply and right to free speech - and all of that is ok by me. The only problem I have with it is that it's hijacked this thread from the OP, and for that reason I should probably move the OT posts to the slug-out area.

I also feel it needs reiterating that mods/admin are no different to the regular posters here in that they're also ordinary QPR fans who have every right to express their views; and it's my steadfast belief that none of them ever exploit that position in any unfair or unjust way.

I'm unable to take sides or arbitrate any further on this matter than the above (particularly as I've had quite a nasty dose of neuralgia in the last few days), as I do not think that will ultimately help matters - and instead I would far prefer to help diffuse matters and bring people together through common interests than act as a wedge. So I simply hope the two of you can either call a truce or reconciliate somehow.

Nobody is perfect - we all have our shortcomings and we all say things in the heat of the moment that we might later regret. That's just a part of being human and I don't think a single person on this planet is immune from that.

[MYU]

I agree with Stanley's post.

What I don't like is people now just seem to pick fights, throwing insults and don't understand that everyone has different opinions.

That's why I created two opinions, one with JFH and one with NW to stop the thread from getting hijacked, so everyone can have an opinion.

[qprted]

the whole subject is very contraversial because we all know that warnock would definately have taken us to the play offs once again then we could have played harry redknap where as under jimmy floyde we may never go to the play offs
we could easily stay in this division forever under jimmy floyde
imagine if forest sign warnock he would have them top of the prem in four years

[MYU]

the whole subject is very contraversial because we all know that warnock would definately have taken us to the play offs once again then we could have played harry redknap where as under jimmy floyde we may never go to the play offs
we could easily stay in this division forever under jimmy floyde
imagine if forest sign warnock he would have them top of the prem in four years

Ted, that's your opinion and not a fact, he may have taken us down?

[Rangers77]

'77, I consider Hubble a friend and there is no way I'm going to do that. I like him as a poster and often find myself agreeing with his views. Similarly I also like you as a poster and often find myself agreeing with your views. You are a character on here who can often be outspoken and not afraid to speak your mind or follow the crowd. The two of you are mature adults who've both spoken your mind on this thread, you've exercised your right to reply and right to free speech - and all of that is ok by me. The only problem I have with it is that it's hijacked this thread from the OP, and for that reason I should probably move the OT posts to the slug-out area.

I also feel it needs reiterating that mods/admin are no different to the regular posters here in that they're also ordinary QPR fans who have every right to express their views; and it's my steadfast belief that none of them ever exploit that position in any unfair or unjust way.

I'm unable to take sides or arbitrate any further on this matter than the above (particularly as I've had quite a nasty dose of neuralgia in the last few days), as I do not think that will ultimately help matters - and instead I would far prefer to help diffuse matters and bring people together through common interests than act as a wedge. So I simply hope the two of you can either call a truce or reconciliate somehow.

Nobody is perfect - we all have our shortcomings and we all say things in the heat of the moment that we might later regret. That's just a part of being human and I don't think a single person on this planet is immune from that.

Wise words from a good fella. Hope you're feeling better soon, Stanley.

[Fraggy]

I never get a shout out
In all seriousness 77, every single decision that affects this board is always voted on and discussed thoroughly. Hubs has voted in your favour on at least one occasion, and that's why this latest argument between the 2 of you is somewhat confusing.

[amusant]

Of course if JFH is successful, he won't be with us in 5 years. He's on a rolling contract so can go (or get sacked) any time he likes....with Uncle Tony's level of incompetence, bound to turn out that JFH is incredibly successful, but the only manager he hasn't tied to a contract!

[Ginger Ninja]

Well what's he's done at Rotherham is nothing short of a miracle ... They were doomed when he took over

There no denying that he is a class act in this division ,,,, I for one would not have minded if he had stayed

No doubt he's done a job there but can you really see them challenging under him in the next couple of years? Warnock is a short term option and that's not what we need.

[corbray]

Its unfair to compare Warnock and JFH at this stage considering Warnock has got 30 years worth of experience more than JFH.
That being said though I'm glad jimmy is our manager rather than Warnock. Giving Warnock the job is like taking out a loan to pay off a debt, its a short term solution that could put you in even more trouble.
In 5 years time I can see us in the prem though but without JFH as manager, he's got something special about him and imo will go on to manage bigger and better clubs than us