Jamie Mackie

[West Acton]

I can see benefit of mackie as a squad player but he don't see himself like that he's sees himself as starter and one of the main men. Him being squad player last time never worked and were there not rumours because of this he was one of the disruptive influences

[Ginger Ninja]

Biting? I used a snazzy smiley thingy majig to agree with a comment above? Odd ball aren't you Bill.

Careful mate, he's a bit sensitive.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Geezer scores a wonder goal and slaps and kisses the badge and all we can do is criticise, criticise, criticise....

I accept he's limited but if that is a criteria for selecting a team over the last 5 years or so we would of only fielded Cisse, Remy and Charlie, on Friday we would have only wheeled the goalie out.

We are hardly drowning in talent.

You have the one player that gets the crowd going and has shown any passion over half a decade and all us armchair coaches are up in arms about him starting as if we have an abundance of talent to call upon. What's been shocking under TF was with all the money he spent we didn't have hardly anyone who cared and it then became toxic, dressing rooms were lost players laughed when substantiated, no one wanted to take freekicks or responsibility and just happy to walk off the pitch up at away games up North after another abysmal performance without even acknowledging the away support but don't matter as he has talent somewhere..

JFH is rubbish ..some reject from Burton...we don't want him, he's Eviles mate...we want Pearson, Warnock must stay or conte.....

Oh hold on JFH is doing ok...he's the right choice ...pleased I always backed him...

Even though JFH knows what he's doing...how is he playing Mackie...he's rubbish...oh good goal...he's rubbish we need players who are talented and play for the shirt....

Give the geezer a break, we are not that good and are building ...we need players in the dressing room that put the club first if that means starting them as a signal of intent by the manager to other players then so be it.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Geezer scores a wonder goal and slaps and kisses the badge and all we can do is criticise, criticise, criticise....

I accept he's limited but if that is a criteria for selecting a team over the last 5 years or so we would of only fielded Cisse, Remy and Charlie, on Friday we would have only wheeled the goalie out.

We are hardly drowning in talent.

You have the one player that gets the crowd going and has shown any passion over half a decade and all us armchair coaches are up in arms about him starting as if we have an abundance of talent to call upon. What's been shocking under TF was with all the money he spent we didn't have hardly anyone who cared and it then became toxic, dressing rooms were lost players laughed when substantiated, no one wanted to take freekicks or responsibility and just happy to walk off the pitch up at away games up North after another abysmal performance without even acknowledging the away support but don't matter as he has talent somewhere..

JFH is rubbish ..some reject from Burton...we don't want him, he's Eviles mate...we want Pearson, Warnock must stay or conte.....

Oh hold on JFH is doing ok...he's the right choice ...pleased I always backed him...

Even though JFH knows what he's doing...how is he playing Mackie...he's rubbish...oh good goal...he's rubbish we need players who are talented and play for the shirt....

Give the geezer a break, we are not that good and are building ...we need players in the dressing room that put the club first if that means starting them as a signal of intent by the manager to other players then so be it.

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[davieqpr]

I want to play for the club. It's in heart with a passion. Would never cause trouble, always agree with the Manager, and frequently kiss the badge. Unfortunately I am not a good enough player.

[nasser95]

Geezer scores a wonder goal and slaps and kisses the badge and all we can do is criticise, criticise, criticise....

I accept he's limited but if that is a criteria for selecting a team over the last 5 years or so we would of only fielded Cisse, Remy and Charlie, on Friday we would have only wheeled the goalie out.

We are hardly drowning in talent.

You have the one player that gets the crowd going and has shown any passion over half a decade and all us armchair coaches are up in arms about him starting as if we have an abundance of talent to call upon. What's been shocking under TF was with all the money he spent we didn't have hardly anyone who cared and it then became toxic, dressing rooms were lost players laughed when substantiated, no one wanted to take freekicks or responsibility and just happy to walk off the pitch up at away games up North after another abysmal performance without even acknowledging the away support but don't matter as he has talent somewhere..

JFH is rubbish ..some reject from Burton...we don't want him, he's Eviles mate...we want Pearson, Warnock must stay or conte.....

Oh hold on JFH is doing ok...he's the right choice ...pleased I always backed him...

Even though JFH knows what he's doing...how is he playing Mackie...he's rubbish...oh good goal...he's rubbish we need players who are talented and play for the shirt....

Give the geezer a break, we are not that good and are building ...we need players in the dressing room that put the club first if that means starting them as a signal of intent by the manager to other players then so be it.

I'm gonna totally disagree with this from a personal standpoint because I'm not at all a fan of playing to the crowd. I think players like Mackie are supposed to get an easier ride because they kiss the badge or because they occasionally do something like waving the crowd on, when in fact that is just a cover for their lack of talent.

I understand the concept behind playing someone who can defend against George Friend and help cover but that should only be the case when we're playing an attacking full back (a la Isla from last season). The fact is, we're playing a defensive player in that position and we don't need as much cover as we've afforded in that game. Irrespective, say we still played the same style because I do trust JFH to get it right style-wise, I feel like CW or Hoilett could have done the same job and given that Hoilett wasn't fully trained up for the game, I feel that CW should have started that on the right.

Anyway, I don't feel that in general, Mackie should be afforded starting time just because he kisses the badge every now and again or scores the most random flukey goal I've ever seen (good on him and all but it doesn't suggest any quality to me). I feel that the sort of player he is can actually cause toxicity because people start wondering why is he in the starting 11 when he's really not better than me and training can only get me so far. So personally, I don't think Mackie should be starting. And we may not be drowning in talent but we damn sure have a few players who play in his position who are better than him.

And just in case, I was very much for JFH and if he feels a player is beneficial, I'll support him on it, but I feel that from my perspective, Mackie isn't exactly a necessary component of success or of the future that we should be looking at. As a fan, I want players who are more talented than playing passionately but there does have to be a balance, just one more in favour of talent.

[Kevin Mcleod]

I want to play for the club. It's in heart with a passion. Would never cause trouble, always agree with the Manager, and frequently kiss the badge. Unfortunately I am not a good enough player.

And you couldn't score a cracker like Mackie did Friday.
Plenty good enough for our squad in this division imho.

[dogsrrs]

Youv'e had a manager who got his job for no other reason than being the DOFs mate he held the for too long because he was the DOFs buddie ! You lost a manager because he was a threat to the DOF ! Now you have a manager ffs let him manage and use the players he see's fit to use

[Hove Ranger]

And you couldn't score a cracker like Mackie did Friday.
Plenty good enough for our squad in this division imho.

Well according to Nasser it was the most random, flukey goal he's ever seen. Tough crowd

[nasser95]

Well according to Nasser it was the most random, flukey goal he's ever seen. Tough crowd

I credit him with the quality of the goal but you give him that shot 100 times and you won't get a goal in any remote level of consistency. I'm glad that the time he did try it, it worked, but saying that you couldn't score a cracker like Mackie did? I reckon that a few more people than you think could have scored something like that.

[OneJamieMackie]

Get off Mackie's back

[Hove Ranger]

I credit him with the quality of the goal but you give him that shot 100 times and you won't get a goal in any remote level of consistency. I'm glad that the time he did try it, it worked, but saying that you couldn't score a cracker like Mackie did? I reckon that a few more people than you think could have scored something like that.

I dont understand what you are saying Nas. Only that he isnt capable of scoring a goal like that again in 100 attempts (which is based on presumption and no facts) then questioning whether I could have scored that goal? Strange line to take.

Oh and I reckon i would score that goal 37 times out of 100 if that helps in any way???

[nasser95]

I dont understand what you are saying Nas. Only that he isnt capable of scoring a goal like that again in 100 attempts (which is based on presumption and no facts) then questioning whether I could have scored that goal? Strange line to take.

Oh and I reckon i would score that goal 37 times out of 100 if that helps in any way???

It's gonna be difficult for me to explain it but I just don't think that we can say that "Oh he scored a worldy so we'll get off his back because he's capable of doing that and runs a little bit". I think that it was a goal of luck and credit to him for taking advantage and using that luck but that doesn't mean he is beyond criticism and questioning of his place in the line up. I think if that had fallen to anyone else it had just as much chance of going in because there wasn't much in terms of "talent" behind the goal relative to the luck.

And I wouldn't be surprised if you did score it 37 times in 100 haha.

[Hove Ranger]

It's gonna be difficult for me to explain it but I just don't think that we can say that "Oh he scored a worldy so we'll get off his back because he's capable of doing that and runs a little bit". I think that it was a goal of luck and credit to him for taking advantage and using that luck but that doesn't mean he is beyond criticism and questioning of his place in the line up. I think if that had fallen to anyone else it had just as much chance of going in because there wasn't much in terms of "talent" behind the goal relative to the luck.

And I wouldn't be surprised if you did score it 37 times in 100 haha.

At no point have i said he deserves his place in the team or anything of the sort. Just found it funny you called it the most random flukey goal you've ever seen. Its funny how people exaggerate to try and prove their point. Mackie deserves credit for that goal and yet some try and twist that as a negative


Ps. It's only 37 out of 100 because it was on his left foot. On the right I don't think I would miss

[Nick]

I dont understand what you are saying Nas. Only that he isnt capable of scoring a goal like that again in 100 attempts (which is based on presumption and no facts) then questioning whether I could have scored that goal? Strange line to take.

Oh and I reckon i would score that goal 37 times out of 100 if that helps in any way???

37??.. na reckon you could easily make it 38 time.... Me on the other hand, not so talented and probably at a push 36 times ;)