Hill/Angella/Hall?

[nanocopic]

As much as I like Hill and even if currently he is slightly better than Hall. It should be Ned and Hall. Hill has said himself one more season as backup when needed as he can't play every match he knows that in his own body and fitness. Hall is our future and deserves the start and consistency and Ned and Hall together are a great pairing.

[vanhoop]

Hill and Hall are the 1st choice pairing for me as they make the least amount of errors of our four choices.

Exactly , how many times did angella slip and let a boro player through for a one on one Friday . I'd out him, keep perch and hall and get some new defenders in summer for clint to train. Not sure what games you been watching Nasser .

[nasser95]

Exactly , how many times did angella slip and let a boro player through for a one on one Friday . I'd out him, keep perch and hall and get some new defenders in summer for clint to train. Not sure what games you been watching Nasser .

Watched every game mate, read every figure alongside it and rewatched every game. Difference between me and most is that I don't let my affection towards players like Hill override my logical thinking that he should not be a starter.

[vanhoop]

Watched every game mate, read every figure alongside it and rewatched every game. Difference between me and most is that I don't let my affection towards players like Hill override my logical thinking that he should not be a starter.

Nothing to do with affection mate, clint is head and shoulders our best defender at 37

[Norths]

What stats dont factor in is the impact a player with passion/leadership etc can have on the rest of the team.
It's easy to hide behind stats, and to claim your opinion is the right one because they might seem in your favour. Codswallop.

[Stanley]

Nothing to do with affection mate, clint is head and shoulders our best defender at 37

What stats dont factor in is the impact a player with passion/leadership etc can have on the rest of the team.
It's easy to hide behind stats, and to claim your opinion is the right one because they might seem in your favour. Codswallop.

Both these posts are spot on.

Clint's vocal, leadership and organisational skills play a massive role which stats simply cannot factor for.

[nasser95]

What stats dont factor in is the impact a player with passion/leadership etc can have on the rest of the team.
It's easy to hide behind stats, and to claim your opinion is the right one because they might seem in your favour. Codswallop.

If you read above, I've said I watch the games twice and look at the stats. I base my opinion on all of these basis and from what I see and read, I have the opinion that in the long run and short run, our best defensive partnership this season has been for sure Onuoha and Hall. They balance each other well and allow for us to play a higher line, meaning we get more control of the ball further up the pitch as Onuoha is always ready to cover any through balls that make their way past Hall and Hall is able to read the situation well and place himself in the best position to make challenges.

Mackie is a player with passion and he does sweet FA to benefit the team with that regard. I rate Hill very highly and he is a very good defender, but his lack of pace can be overexposed playing alongside Hall, just as Angella's was. Onuoha may not look to some as the best defender, or the best leader but he is a key element in making the defence comfortable and balanced. People look at his mistakes but I refer you back to his block against Rotherham for example as one of the many cases where his pace has benefited the team and you wonder if another one of our defenders could have gotten to that ball.

You claim hiding behind stats is the easy thing, what about hiding behind the idea of seeing what you want to see. I don't think its a fair statement to suggest anyone is hiding behind anything. I've got loads of avenues showing both mistakes made by Onuoha and moments of brilliance defensively from him and on balance, he is better for our defence than many would want to believe.

[Bill]

Nothing to do with affection mate, clint is head and shoulders our best defender at 37

[corbray]

I think its harsh to suggest Angella or Hall should be dropped after one bad game. I'm going to assume for the sake of this post that we're going to sign Angella next season in which case it makes the most sense to play him alongside Hall. There is nothing to be lost this season and we should look at the rest of the games that we have left as a pre pre-season, a chance to give the team more time to gel and figure out what positions need to be strenghthened and changed.
Both Angella and Hall have played great for us this season, especially Hall who will be the future of our defence for many years.
Chopping and changing players everytime they have a bad game is ridiculous and makes no sense especially if favour of 37 year old part time backup player who could retire at any moment. I love what Hill has done for the club and hope he does have a future behind the scenes here but the long term performances of the club is more important than a winning a few games between now and the end of the season