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  • #16
    Risky to give Faurlin anything more than a one year contract

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    • #17
      Originally posted by surrey_hoop View Post
      One of the most disappointing and incosistent players brought in under the TF era (and that's saying something), I'd be very surprised if he didn't reject any contract we put in front of him. Think his next likely destination is either China or the MLS. Beauty of a goal yesterday mind.

      Junior Hoilett, Alejandro Faurlin, Armand Traore, Karl Henry, Samba Diakite, Rob Green, Paul Konchesky, Clint Hill and Oscar Gobern are all out of contract in the summer. I think they'll offer another 1 year deal to Ali, a year deal to Clint in a player/coach role, and bin off the rest.
      Form that list of players I only want to keep Hoilett on reduced terms, Faurlin and Hill. Henry only if desperate. The rest can go.

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      • #18
        How can we watch garbage for 3 years & now he's just so improved? Last year on the contract thing ?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by OneJamieMackie View Post
          How can we watch garbage for 3 years & now he's just so improved? Last year on the contract thing ?
          Or maybe he's finally got managers that are coaching and believing in him?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by OneJamieMackie View Post
            How can we watch garbage for 3 years & now he's just so improved? Last year on the contract thing ?
            3 years of garbage? I'd say he was not as bad as people are making him out to be last time we were in the champ and he barely got a look in last season so it isn't exactly fair to judge him. Yea, he wasn't great when we signed him and he's not really been incredible but he's been solid at this level certainly.
            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Norths View Post
              Risky to give Faurlin anything more than a one year contract
              Id give him a rolling 1 year contract.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                3 years of garbage? I'd say he was not as bad as people are making him out to be last time we were in the champ and he barely got a look in last season so it isn't exactly fair to judge him. Yea, he wasn't great when we signed him and he's not really been incredible but he's been solid at this level certainly.
                I agree he is not as bad as some say. The problem has been in playing him as a left winger. He is not really a winger as he cant really cross a ball consistently well.
                We are seeing improvement becuase of the position and team formation which suits him better.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
                  I agree he is not as bad as some say. The problem has been in playing him as a left winger. He is not really a winger as he cant really cross a ball consistently well.
                  We are seeing improvement becuase of the position and team formation which suits him better.
                  The thing I like is the fluidity between him and Chery. They both switch constantly between left and centre and do it well.
                  "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                  • #24
                    Hoilett was MOTM without doubt on Sat. That was his best ever game for us IMO.

                    I'm not cynical enough to believe it's because he's after a new contract - he's just being coached and managed better now, work which was begun with Warnock and being continued by JFH.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                      3 years of garbage? I'd say he was not as bad as people are making him out to be last time we were in the champ and he barely got a look in last season so it isn't exactly fair to judge him. Yea, he wasn't great when we signed him and he's not really been incredible but he's been solid at this level certainly.
                      The amount of times he gives the ball away stupidly, doesn't pass at the right time & most of all drags his shot bottom left wide is unreal

                      But he seems so much better under Jimmy

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                        3 years of garbage? I'd say he was not as bad as people are making him out to be last time we were in the champ and he barely got a look in last season so it isn't exactly fair to judge him. Yea, he wasn't great when we signed him and he's not really been incredible but he's been solid at this level certainly.
                        Nas mate, it has been as bad as that in regards to hoilett. I agree he might of been played out of position on occasions or overlooked but he was awful in the season we went back up. He was brought in as a player to have a impact as a premier league club and he hardly done anything in the championship albeit will always be grateful for the cross in the p/o final.

                        His distribution for the last few years has been shocking and that of a 10 year schoolboy who never lifts his head up. He's been frustrating as hell as there is a ok player in there somewhere. I can understand why people are making a case for him right now and half of this season as there has been a upturn in form and he is making all of us think that maybe he is worth a gamble for a new deal. However to say his 3 years at qpr prior to the last few months wernt garbage is literately rubbish.

                        Your a stat man mate. Would love to know his assist and goals record prior to this season?

                        I respect your views mate but seem to differ quite considerably on mackie and hoilett lol

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                        • #27
                          Hoilett has failed in his four years with us, but is playing very well these days.. can argue its the style of play or the manager. But lets not get carried away. He's on a massive amount of money (as likely ned is) as he was signed in the era where we gave money away. If we can severly slash his wages in half, probably more. then we will should offer him a deal. Likely though he'll head off for money.. maybe even the MLS.
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                          • #28
                            To be fair, in the Prem I would agree and say Junior was very poor and not the player we thought we had signed....

                            But in the Champ play-off winning season he was reasonably good and featured a lot for the club, this season he has been superb and has been one of our best players.

                            I would give the man a new 2 year deal as long as its on a reduced deal.

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                            • #29
                              If he's willing to stay on reduced terms then yes, snap him up. He's been one of our best players this season and would be a vital part of next season, I love the chemistry him and Chery share on the field

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                              • #30
                                He won FL goal of the weekend and tbf there was some good competition, esp McCormack's!: http://www.skysports.com/watch/video...als-13th-march

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