hysteria

[hal9thou]

I wish someone could explain to me the hysterical way some of our fans view the current situation, ie totally pro the current status quo or totally against.

I myself have been very critical or the current regime, but I understand that without some stability we are no further forward - which means giving things a bit of time to resolve one way or the other. This may because I don't have a ludicrous set of expectations about our status, ie EPL + new stadium + new training ground. To me those things are irrelevant right now. If we're building, we need a stable platform. At the moment we're very hit and miss on the park, but that in itself is a sign of at least some progress. That's why I predicted a win last night by a couple of goals, followed by another disappointment. May or may not happen, but that is the current pattern and I'll take it and hope for the best.

I just don't understand the mindset which finds virtually no fault, or the opposite - people who can't see any sign of stability or progress. And yet we have plenty in both camps on this forum. I notice they tend to go a little quiet when results suggest their world view may not be 100% spot on. So what's wrong with these people? I'd really like some of the extremists on either side to justify their position. I am genuinely interested....

[vespa]

maybe people ( an im guilty too ) post too much while having a few beers at home and rational thought goes out the window or possibly just internet forums bring out traits of stubbornness , narrow mindedness etc
Either way people take and give offence much easier over the internet .than they do chatting in the pub

[bakes8]

People that are extremely positive - post about it.

People who are extremely negative - post about it.

People who are quite happy with how things are going and moderately positive for the future but don't wanna crow about it (ie. most fans) - don't post.

[nasser95]

I wish someone could explain to me the hysterical way some of our fans view the current situation, ie totally pro the current status quo or totally against.

I myself have been very critical or the current regime, but I understand that without some stability we are no further forward - which means giving things a bit of time to resolve one way or the other. This may because I don't have a ludicrous set of expectations about our status, ie EPL + new stadium + new training ground. To me those things are irrelevant right now. If we're building, we need a stable platform. At the moment we're very hit and miss on the park, but that in itself is a sign of at least some progress. That's why I predicted a win last night by a couple of goals, followed by another disappointment. May or may not happen, but that is the current pattern and I'll take it and hope for the best.

I just don't understand the mindset which finds virtually no fault, or the opposite - people who can't see any sign of stability or progress. And yet we have plenty in both camps on this forum. I notice they tend to go a little quiet when results suggest their world view may not be 100% spot on. So what's wrong with these people? I'd really like some of the extremists on either side to justify their position. I am genuinely interested....

Honestly, I think this is a bit harsh on many. I'd say 90% of this forum is actually not as extreme as you believe. There are a few on the more critical side who don't say much until we lose or draw but beyond them, I'd say everyone here always engages. At the end of the day, bar a couple of fairly blatant trolls, we all have validity to our concerns and support, its just the expression of it that some get riled about. I'm extremely positive and many get annoyed by that, but I'm aware of the flaws and faults made by the club. The positivity flows through potential more than anything. I've started to realise that each win doesn't mean we're closer to achieving anything and neither does each loss suggest the world is going to end. What you may find is that even all of us positive people are very sure that we won't get play offs (even if we may secretly want them) but a fair few in the other camp (but definitely not a majority) still see relegation as a possibility and certainly before yesterday's result, saw it as more of a likelihood.

[hal9thou]

I've started to realise that each win doesn't mean we're closer to achieving anything and neither does each loss suggest the world is going to end.

which does keep things real.....

also as someone said, people are more likely to post on fans forums when a bit wound up one way or t'other.

[Alanwycombe]

Honestly, I think this is a bit harsh on many. I'd say 90% of this forum is actually not as extreme as you believe. There are a few on the more critical side who don't say much until we lose or draw but beyond them, I'd say everyone here always engages. At the end of the day, bar a couple of fairly blatant trolls, we all have validity to our concerns and support, its just the expression of it that some get riled about. I'm extremely positive and many get annoyed by that, but I'm aware of the flaws and faults made by the club. The positivity flows through potential more than anything. I've started to realise that each win doesn't mean we're closer to achieving anything and neither does each loss suggest the world is going to end. What you may find is that even all of us positive people are very sure that we won't get play offs (even if we may secretly want them) but a fair few in the other camp (but definitely not a majority) still see relegation as a possibility and certainly before yesterday's result, saw it as more of a likelihood.

This. One of your more sensible posts. You don't often get across that you see things like this.

[Ed the Ball]

People that are extremely positive - post about it.

People who are extremely negative - post about it.

People who are quite happy with how things are going and moderately positive for the future but don't wanna crow about it (ie. most fans) - don't post.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
Most fans are generally contented and do not take things so seriously either way.
It's us attention seekers that post.

[Shania]

We managed to beat Derby yesterday but many people don´t actually care. You couldn`t make it up. imo, it seems like they at all cost want JFH to fail. Oh, and his backers aswell. Nothing new under the sun.

[nasser95]

This. One of your more sensible posts. You don't often get across that you see things like this.

The issue for me a lot of the time is that I am responding to people mostly. I try and be as balanced as possible, the issue is that when at times you get wound up and you see someone else going totally against a balanced philosophy, its hard to keep your opinion balanced. The above post is generally how I feel at the moment.

[dogsrrs]

What I glean from this site is that it's mainly just Pro the Board and DOF or anti and if you find reason to criticise your put down as doom and gloom merchant on the other hand if you find reason to support certain aspects of the club ie Jimmy Floyds progress your put down as wearing rainbow glasses , so finding myself middle of the road I get attacked from both sides

[hal9thou]

What I glean from this site is that it's mainly just Pro the Board and DOF or anti and if you find reason to criticise your put down as doom and gloom merchant on the other hand if you find reason to support certain aspects of the club ie Jimmy Floyds progress your put down as wearing rainbow glasses , so finding myself middle of the road I get attacked from both sides

I think its time for all the realists to come out of the closet. We basically know that mid table is not only what we deserve, and a fair refelction of where we are, it actually represents a chance to put together something a little better next year - without the insane pressure that a dogfight at either end of the table brings. We've experienced both extremes recently and neither experience has provided stability.

[dogsrrs]

Your spot on we need to think in terms of being in this div for another 2 years , but lets foget this realists and happy clapper b/s we are all QPRfans and all have opions , and there's no need to get tore into each other just because we dont want to believe what some else rightly or wrongly belives

[Hubble]

I wish someone could explain to me the hysterical way some of our fans view the current situation, ie totally pro the current status quo or totally against.

I myself have been very critical or the current regime, but I understand that without some stability we are no further forward - which means giving things a bit of time to resolve one way or the other. This may because I don't have a ludicrous set of expectations about our status, ie EPL + new stadium + new training ground. To me those things are irrelevant right now. If we're building, we need a stable platform. At the moment we're very hit and miss on the park, but that in itself is a sign of at least some progress. That's why I predicted a win last night by a couple of goals, followed by another disappointment. May or may not happen, but that is the current pattern and I'll take it and hope for the best.

I just don't understand the mindset which finds virtually no fault, or the opposite - people who can't see any sign of stability or progress. And yet we have plenty in both camps on this forum. I notice they tend to go a little quiet when results suggest their world view may not be 100% spot on. So what's wrong with these people? I'd really like some of the extremists on either side to justify their position. I am genuinely interested....

I think there are very few fans (on here or anywhere else) who find virtually no fault, in fact I can only think of one... There seems to be a hardcore of posters who are determined to see the opposite view though, that the current regime can do no right, no matter what. As to 'what's wrong with them' - well, we're all somewhere on the spectrum of everything, including fandom, pessimism and/or optimism, so inevitably there will be some at the extreme ends of the spectrum. That's just life.

[wortonranger]

There are some very sensible, balanced views on here. Long may it continue. Like with most things the silent majority are unheard on here. By definition I suppose. I just wish the noisy ones didn't get so angry so easily. Don't mind the "happy clappers" so much as glass half full optimism is my natural preference.

[Stanley]

I think its time for all the realists to come out of the closet.

Sorry to harp on about this but as long as people keep using that word (along with 'happy-clapper') I'll probably never stop.

Both words are totally inaccurate descriptions of what they're being used to describe.