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  • #61
    I was more impressed with Clive's questions than some of the answers, because the facts can not be gainsaid (ie the vast equity conversion necessary to take the hit). An awful lot of money was spent on a project which in financial terms has been nothing less than a complete meltdown. Yes, it is great that once the Barclays loan is repaid the club will be 'debt free', but simply looking at the books is a really sobering experience, and not suggestive that the people spending the money know what they are doing.

    The flaw has consistently been in the quality of appointment made. Tony implies that the criticism is all in hindsight, but I'm afraid that is just not true. I don't know if anyone else would agree but I don't think his endorsement of Les was exactly ringing - I wonder if he wonders about that appointment, because it had significant implications, but there we go. On Lee Hoos the jury is out. Fans of clubs where he has served time hardly provide a ringing endorsement.

    So unlike Kirill at one extremity and Kev at the other, I am neither despairing nor optimistic. I just hope for the best, because in reality that is all any of us can do.
    Last edited by hal9thou; 26-02-2016, 02:59 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by West Acton View Post
      How much of the 200mil went on cab fares to your brother
      Got to admit I laughed out loud at that despite disagreeing with just about every other comment you've made!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by JJB View Post
        No wonder this board has the reputation of being used by total and utter numpties.
        Funny how the ones that always bring this up are often a big part of why the forum has a bad rep.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Brian Wilson View Post
          Funny how the ones that always bring this up are often a big part of why the forum has a bad rep.
          ITK Willo

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          • #65
            Originally posted by bushkangaroo View Post
            Got to admit I laughed out loud at that despite disagreeing with just about every other comment you've made!
            All fun and games Kan no rights or wrongs just differing views

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JJB View Post
              Oh that's fine then, lets waste 200 millions pounds. When he took over we were not even in the bottom 3 of the premier league, 200 million pounds later we are 13th in the championship. We are no closer to having a new training ground or stadium and are way worse off after he has wasted all that money, our money not his and yet people still defend him.

              Talk about being clueless.
              Clueless? From the chauffer's brother? Do me a favour lol
              You're clearly one of the ones who wanted the training ground now now now now, of course it's gonna bloody take time! Get your head out of your ####.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by JJB View Post
                Trying to have a decent debate on here is like a broken pencil...
                No wonder this board has the reputation of being used by total and utter numpties.
                Originally posted by Brian Wilson View Post
                Funny how the ones that always bring this up are often a big part of why the forum has a bad rep.
                Funny too how he and RebelRs keep using the forum too, even though it's so poor in their eyes, and slagging us at every opportunity.

                If it's so rubbish here, fark orf and join one of the others!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Kirill View Post
                  Interesting is not the word I would use, struggled through about 30% of it and then fell asleep.
                  What a moronic response. If you actually read the interview, you'd find out what Fernandes has to say, talking to one of our most incisive and respected fans, but you'd just prefer to drivel on like a cracked record with your anti-TF agenda. The reason you don't want to read it is you might discover things that contradict your one-eyed view of the man, and that would probably just be too difficult for you to deal with. The image I have is of a hamster self-combusting.

                  Anyway, I found it a fascinating and refreshing, and cause for renewed optimism. Good on Tony Fernandes and great interview from Clive. You Rs.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bakes8 View Post
                    Coming from the worst ITK poster of all time. Take a day off will you.
                    U know it mate. I remember when he had a melt down on here and said he wasn't posting anymore for a reaction. No 1 gave a s.h.it. And couple days later he was back on here spouting more itk rubbish that never happened.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by davidla80 View Post
                      Interesting quotes for me:

                      "That’s what I was trying to say, rather than defend my record, which cannot be defended."
                      Self-awareness is always a good thing

                      "We’ve struggled to get the right people in" and "We have a competent CEO now who is making a big difference"
                      So that seems to be criticising Philip Beard quite strongly.
                      Agreed. Contrary to how my friend Mr JJB has interpreted it, Fernandes is actually saying he can't defend his record, not that it doesn't need defending...

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Hubble View Post
                        What a moronic response.
                        What is moronic is how people keep falling for his reassuring utterances.
                        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                        but take a look at my photo blog:

                        http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                        How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                        http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                        • #72
                          "TF: I wouldn’t say I was defending my position, because there’s not a lot to defend truth be told "

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JJB View Post
                            "TF: I wouldn’t say I was defending my position, because there’s not a lot to defend truth be told "
                            Not much of a position, truth be told.
                            Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                            but take a look at my photo blog:

                            http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                            How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                            http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                            • #74
                              For me it’s as plain as the nose on my face what a woeful job TF has done as since taking over. How anybody else can spin this into anything else is beyond me and don’t even get me started on his tweets i.e. “Dream manager” etc.

                              When talking to a indie based fan sit, they had a real chance to ask the tough questions, the questions us fans all want answering but once again he was allowed to spin himself into the “ Nice Man” brand he portrays himself as but I don’t want a nice chairman, I want a chairman that has a proven track record in doing right by our club and making the right decisions 9/10 not making an utter balls up in everything he touches.

                              Still he says all the right things and most fans are somehow still believing his hype and nonsense and until one brick is laid for this new training ground and stadium I will always have him down as a spin and ######## merchant and we will never truly progress with him at the helm.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by JJB View Post
                                "TF: I wouldn’t say I was defending my position, because there’s not a lot to defend truth be told "
                                Yes, taken out of context, that looks ridiculous. If you put it back into the context of the interview:

                                "I wouldn’t say I was defending my position, because there’s not a lot to defend truth be told - numbers are numbers, positions are positions. I was trying to say that it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. If you’re a QPR fan sometimes it feels like apocalypse has arrived, and I was saying it’s not the end of the world. We’re committed and we have a good team in place – though there’s no guarantee that will fix everything. That’s what I was trying to say, rather than defend my record, which cannot be defended."

                                You get a rather different picture.

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