Looks like Phillips is staying then.

[nasser95]

Nasser cmon you aren't serious, surely?! Andros Townsend has scored 3 in 10 caps for England, are you genuinely saying Phillips is a better player?!

Credit to him for scoring against italy, but anyone could score against san marino and it isn't too difficult for a pro to score against montenegro.

He's the most one dimensional player I think I've ever seen. 5 goals and 6 assists in 62 premier league matches (3086 minutes). Phillips has 5 goals and 11 assists in 52 matches (2852 minutes). Bear in mind that most of Townsends minutes have been for an extremely attacking tottenham side while matty's have been for us and blackpool. He's famously got one move - cut inside and hope for the best. He's extremely one footed (his weak foot goal for england was the only goal he's scored on it if I'm not mistaken). Meanwhile Phillips has a great cross, good shot on him, both are good at dribbling but phillips is less predictable due to his incredible weak foot. Matty P all day long for me.

[theblackmafia.]

Irrelevant to the point, people are calling townsend the better player. Def not the case.

Not irrelevant when it is part of your reasoning! Keep playing with your stats if it makes you feel like a progressivist
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[FACTS]

Got to agree with Nasser... Townsend is an awful footballer, proper hype job. Proper highlight player, has a hard shot on him but he never scores and is VERY greedy. Should never be playing international football.

Newcastle are getting lots of praise for signing him but it looks to me like Spurs have fleeced another club.

Having said that Philips is inconsistent. The levels are pretty low to be honest..

[Stanley]

This season, he's kept feeling like he was going to leave and hasn't been all there. I'd think if his future was settled with a new contract, he'd tear this league (and the league above us) up and do it consistently.

Pure speculation wth zero evidence to back it up, so I don't buy that line for one second. It's making feeble excuses for him. He's a professional who gets handsomely paid. The very least you do is give 100% when on the pitch.

[nasser95]

Pure speculation wth zero evidence to back it up, so I don't buy that line for one second. It's making feeble excuses for him. He's a professional who gets handsomely paid. The very least you do is give 100% when on the pitch.

He's also a human and the one thing every single pro I've spoken to has said is that people think they have to robotically act a certain way because they get paid so much. Having a psychologist at the club who has no affiliation to it has helped so many players find their form and it was the same for Barton with Steve Black.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

He's also a human and the one thing every single pro I've spoken to has said is that people think they have to robotically act a certain way because they get paid so much. Having a psychologist at the club who has no affiliation to it has helped so many players find their form and it was the same for Barton with Steve Black.

[1QPRDK]

I agree with Nasser as well. Rather Phillips than Townsend. Facts is bang on about the greedy part. Townsend almost never crosses the ball. He is just a rich mans Hoillett.

[Timmy the Doc]

I agree with Nasser as well. Rather Phillips than Townsend. Facts is bang on about the greedy part. Townsend almost never crosses the ball. He is just a rich mans Hoillett.

I think Townsend beats his man more often than Phillips or Hoilett. Andros has a powerful shot, but mostly misses the target. Phillips on the other hand has a similar shot with both feets, is a very good crosser and on set pieces (remember how poor Barton was?). Unfortunately he also misses the target more often than not.
Agree with Nasser that Phillips has suffered the mess there has been last three years.
Like I said I also prefer Phillips to Townsend. Phillips is an honest pro. Townsend had one good season and is now free falling imo. Rich mans Hoilett is a very good expression. I have called Phillips a poor mans Beckham.

[dogsrrs]

Sorry Tim phillips doesn't put enough effort into his game to be considered a honest pro driifts in and out of a game far to often ,
obviously not worth the value QPR put on him by clubs reputedly interested in him , he's been just paper talk again with no substance

[Stanley]

He's also a human and the one thing every single pro I've spoken to has said is that people think they have to robotically act a certain way because they get paid so much. Having a psychologist at the club who has no affiliation to it has helped so many players find their form and it was the same for Barton with Steve Black.

What utter bull$hit. It's called being a professional ffs. Nothing to do with 'acting robotically'. It's simply about leaving nothing out on the pitch - the bare minimum requirement for which you are paid for. I could accept your argument if the fans were constantly on his back (as that would knock his confidence), but they're not, and by and large are supportive.

[maidstone_hoop]

Not much difference between phillips or townsend tbh. Think both need to get their heads down and be more consistent tbh.

Phillips is a very good player and it frustrates the crap out of me that hes not performong to the best of his abillity week in week out. As others have said I think the mess of the last 2 or 3 years has just taken its toll on him and he wants a stable club in the prem.

Good think is we have brought a left winger so for the rest of the season hoilett is either playin in the number 10 role or on the becnh

[nasser95]

What utter bull$hit. It's called being a professional ffs. Nothing to do with 'acting robotically'. It's simply about leaving nothing out on the pitch - the bare minimum requirement for which you are paid for. I could accept your argument if the fans were constantly on his back (as that would knock his confidence), but they're not, and by and large are supportive.

Mate, have you been to any of our last 5 or 6 home games? If Phillips even attempts to beat a man and fails, the fans give him worse cr ap than most players I've seen here. Him and Fer have gotten never ending abuse at times for no reason. If you think those are supportive fans, you're going to be very surprised when things are going our way.

As for being a professional, I've worked at companies for short periods of time and I've found times where I've just wanted to laze out. It happens to be the case that there is plenty of information available regarding player psychology and I urge you to read up on it because its almost like you have been spoilt by seeing Mackie do what he does and expect every other player (most of whom are significantly more talented) to put in as much effort.

I'm actually concerned about what's going to happen to El Khayati when he tries to beat a man and fails because the fans will boo him, and some will be very harsh. Will be interesting to see how beneficial the close fans to the pitch are when they don't even give full support to their team.

[SammyKojoe]

Said it before and will say it again. Phillips just isn't that good. 4 assists in 29 games in a poor Championship league. It's not so much lack of effort or desire due to speculation surrounding his future either....... it's more his actual lack of ability! He isn't that good. Think he has the potential to be a consistent decent player mind.

Am no great fan of Andros Townsend either but he is a better player than Phillips. Townsend would be a top championship player week in and week out. Phillips has 1 good game in 6 at Championship level.

For the record i would love to be wrong as well and hope Matty P for the last 5 months of the season tears this league a new one but i geniunely don't think he is good enough.

[Stanley]

Mate, have you been to any of our last 5 or 6 home games? If Phillips even attempts to beat a man and fails, the fans give him worse cr ap than most players I've seen here. Him and Fer have gotten never ending abuse at times for no reason. If you think those are supportive fans, you're going to be very surprised when things are going our way.

I've heard the Fer abuse at games but not that much directed at Phillips. If that's the case then I agree it can knock a player's confidence and I would put his inconsistent form down to that, but NOT for any other reason.

[nasser95]

Said it before and will say it again. Phillips just isn't that good. 4 assists in 29 games in a poor Championship league. It's not so much lack of effort or desire due to speculation surrounding his future either....... it's more his actual lack of ability! He isn't that good. Think he has the potential to be a consistent decent player mind.

Am no great fan of Andros Townsend either but he is a better player than Phillips. Townsend would be a top championship player week in and week out. Phillips has 1 good game in 6 at Championship level.

For the record i would love to be wrong as well and hope Matty P for the last 5 months of the season tears this league a new one but i geniunely don't think he is good enough.

At the same time, you could look at 14 premier league games 8 assists and 3 goals out of the 18 we actually managed to score in that period (Contributed directly to almost 2/3 of our goals in that period) as proof of his ability alongside the fact that it proves when he feels a level of stability and support, he'll do very well. I think personally, either when he leaves or signs a new contract, he'll start playing really well. Certainly much better than the level Andros Townsend is capable of.