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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hubble View Post
    Correct. He's inherited a mess. Some players are overpaid and jaded, some too green, some too old, some just not good enough. This season is just the beginning of the overhaul, not the end of it. I'd say next season should still be about getting the balance right, with a view to promotion the season after that.
    I agree with this post, the transfer window is still open and the only player to leave is Charlie. We still need to shift 4 to 5 players to allow new players a way in.

    We might not be able to shift players this window, it will then delay thing further until the summer, it's slow but at least we've started.

    An instant fix that some want is not realistic.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
      Is yesterday's result really that disappointing?


      Yes, massively disappointing.

      Considering:

      a) We were at home; the opposition; and their injury list.
      b) The woeful 2nd half performance.
      c) The chances we had to kill the game off, and
      d) Our appalling record at being incapable of holding on to winning positions. I've lost count of the amount of times we go 1-0 up only to then sit back until the inevitable happens.

      And the disappointment never gets any easier to bear either.

      I trust that answers your question adequately.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
        Is yesterday's result really that disappointing? I'd say it only seems that way because we were winning for long stretch of it. 4 points from 6 against Wolves is something I'd take at the start of the season.
        Are you obsessed with disageeing or what , the result doesn't seem disappointing it is in so much that we had the game well under control and didn't have the quality , spirit , nouse tol hold on to the control or the guile to build on it

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Stanley View Post


          Yes, massively disappointing.

          Considering:

          a) We were at home; the opposition; and their injury list.
          b) The woeful 2nd half performance.
          c) The chances we had to kill the game off, and
          d) Our appalling record at being incapable of holding on to winning positions. I've lost count of the amount of times we go 1-0 up only to then sit back until the inevitable happens.

          And the disappointment never gets any easier to bear either.

          I trust that answers your question adequately.
          I'm sure there's a stat available that ignores all that.

          There's probably another one that suggests that making substitutions before the last fifteen minutes when things aren't going to plan, achieves more than making them after that.

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          • #20
            We've been throwing it away late on for YEARS.

            We need 5 or 6 new/replaced players. RB, LB, CB, CM, AM, CM, GK and we're good to go. Give JFH time to get us playing his way.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by brightonr View Post
              I'm sure there's a stat available that ignores all that.

              There's probably another one that suggests that making substitutions before the last fifteen minutes when things aren't going to plan, achieves more than making them after that.
              No doubt there are mate but I'll ignore them, as they're usually just lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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              • #22
                Rebuilding what?
                Haven't we already been told we were getting rid of the players like Swp the players who were here for money only happy to sit on the bench
                This club has been a joke since we won the championship just lies lies and more lies and records being broken like the worsed away record in the prem history complete and utter shambles
                R's

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                • #23
                  We started rebuilding in the summer if you look at the players brought in Gladwin,Luongo, Chery, Polter, JET.
                  Then what happened was the nobody wanted our star players at the wright price.
                  Rebuilding put on hold stars had to play
                  Now we already brought in two more young players for rebuilding
                  One star out and hopefully more.
                  We will have exciting team in two years

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Stanley View Post


                    Yes, massively disappointing.

                    Considering:

                    a) We were at home; the opposition; and their injury list.
                    b) The woeful 2nd half performance.
                    c) The chances we had to kill the game off, and
                    d) Our appalling record at being incapable of holding on to winning positions. I've lost count of the amount of times we go 1-0 up only to then sit back until the inevitable happens.

                    And the disappointment never gets any easier to bear either.

                    I trust that answers your question adequately.
                    I seem to recall a thread here full of people saying that we should not expect a victory. Obviously I was at the game and we should have won, but what I mean is that in the grand scale of everything, the result wasn't disappointing, the way it came about was. Let me put it this way, if the results of the home and away legs of Wolves games this season were switched around, we would be happy with it. I certainly would be.
                    Also, your points c and d go against each other in logic. I wouldn't say we sat back, we just got unlucky with our chances. The second half was not good, I agree but we were very comfortable for the first half. Almost totally the opposite of Rotherham.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • #25
                      This rebuilding is a great plan - and it sounds so easy. I hope other teams don't notice it so we won't face any unnecessary competition.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fordy View Post
                        Bournemouths team is full of ex league 1 players. So what. Doesn't matter what league they are in, if they are good enough sign em up. Matt Ritchie they signed from Swindon
                        Big word in there mate . Team . We're not a team . Give me a team who play together and who we can be proud of over these big names any day of the week

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                          I seem to recall a thread here full of people saying that we should not expect a victory. Obviously I was at the game and we should have won, but what I mean is that in the grand scale of everything, the result wasn't disappointing, the way it came about was. Let me put it this way, if the results of the home and away legs of Wolves games this season were switched around, we would be happy with it. I certainly would be.
                          Also, your points c and d go against each other in logic. I wouldn't say we sat back, we just got unlucky with our chances. The second half was not good, I agree but we were very comfortable for the first half. Almost totally the opposite of Rotherham.

                          Cant you understand the disappointment is not dropping the points it's the manor in which we lost control of the game that tells anybody with half a brain the size of the job that JFH has and it also tells us that we arn't even at square one in getting this bunch of dross to look like a squad that is anywhere near to being a sound championship outfit

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                            in the grand scale of everything, the result wasn't disappointing, the way it came about was.
                            I'm relieved you can at least concede that (which is all I was saying)! There's hope for you yet Nas

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
                              Cant you understand the disappointment is not dropping the points it's the manor in which we lost control of the game that tells anybody with half a brain the size of the job that JFH has and it also tells us that we arn't even at square one in getting this bunch of dross to look like a squad that is anywhere near to being a sound championship outfit
                              I did say that I was disappointed by the manner in which the points were lost in that post, on the first line. I even agree in part with everything you say in general here, but I think we are closer than you may think. One or two bits of tinkering - Henry out of the 11 and either Fer out or Fer with more energy in - and we'd be doing a lot better. We're dropping points by such small margins (we haven't lost by more than a goal under JFH and we've scored at least one goal in all but one league game) that I feel we just need to tinker with the balance and we'll be fine.
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                                I'm relieved you can at least concede that, which is all I was saying!
                                I really do feel for JFH because its only a couple of starters letting him down in each game. You can see the style of play is slowly developing but is let down by key elements not performing how they should at times.
                                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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