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Sorry Surrey, you may not have brought the subject up originally, but this is what my "you seem pretty certain" post alluded to.
I'll refer you back to my original point. We are losing far more money than we are making with TF et al in charge. We will (in all likelihood) lose far more money than we make once TF has sold up. Obviously I can't be certain, but there is certainly a high probability of this scenario reaching it's nadir within the next season or two.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion if you don't like it don't read it simples,its also gets
tedious at times reading the optimistic rose tinted glasses brigade avoiding the issue we are pretty dire
at the moment and yesterday at Forest as I have said was not pretty so a bit of advice for you
smell the coffee and who said nything about despising the club.
Oh I forgot in this day and age anything negative is fordidden even if its true
I'm not saying the football isn't dire but come on, anything to have a moan, whether it's the team, the manager or the board. Nothing to do with smelling coffee or being happy clappy. You can't have been around when things were really bad. Let me remind you. The proposed merger, the buckets, the shares that are worthless, relegation to league one. Need I go on?
At least the board has spent its own money and a new training ground is in the offing. Not all bad is it?
Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
I'm not saying the football isn't dire but come on, anything to have a moan, whether it's the team, the manager or the board. Nothing to do with smelling coffee or being happy clappy. You can't have been around when things were really bad. Let me remind you. The proposed merger, the buckets, the shares that are worthless, relegation to league one. Need I go on?
At least the board has spent its own money and a new training ground is in the offing. Not all bad is it?
Are they above criticism or something then? When most of us pay £30 a week to watch this dross, moaning about it is the least we're entitled to.
I love how the stock response to fans who don't want to put up with c rap is that they 'can't have been around when things were really bad.' Well we were, and we could well be going back to those days again if we're relegated. Keep telling yourself we're the a ssholes though if it makes you feel better.
Are they above criticism or something then? When most of us pay £30 a week to watch this dross, moaning about it is the least we're entitled to.
I love how the stock response to fans who don't want to put up with c rap is that they 'can't have been around when things were really bad.' Well we were, and we could well be going back to those days again if we're relegated. Keep telling yourself we're the a ssholes though if it makes you feel better.
Perhaps your expectations are too high? Don't many fans think we're at the right level for a club our size? We've got a new manager who needs time to put his mark on the squad. Yes, we've been playing terrible football, but you won't improve the performances by moaning 24/7.
Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
Perhaps your expectations are too high? Don't many fans think we're at the right level for a club our size? We've got a new manager who needs time to put his mark on the squad. Yes, we've been playing terrible football, but you won't improve the performances by moaning 24/7.
I wouldn't say they were too high. Given the talent in the squad and the resources at our disposal, I would've considered as a play-off team before the start of the season - most of us would've agreed on that as well. I certainly wouldn't have had us a couple of wins above the relegation zone at Christmas, that's for sure. If you're talking in a broader sense about us being a Championship club then yes, we are. With that said, I think this season was the best chance that we will have to get back into the PL for a very long time, and we've completely blown it. Once the 'stars' are gone, we will be relying on lower league / youth players for a while to come - at that point, who knows where we might end up? I don't blame JFH in the slightest for the events unfolding at the club either. It's clearly down to the players, TF and LF.
You're right, moaning won't improve the performances. It does make going to watch this tripe almost bearable though.
I'm not saying the football isn't dire but come on, anything to have a moan, whether it's the team, the manager or the board. Nothing to do with smelling coffee or being happy clappy. You can't have been around when things were really bad. Let me remind you. The proposed merger, the buckets, the shares that are worthless, relegation to league one. Need I go on?
At least the board has spent its own money and a new training ground is in the offing. Not all bad is it?
Not around when the buckets were out I was one holding the buckets first game 1962.
Been through all those items you mention I don't really care what the DOF or the manager does but what
I do care about and demand is 110% effort on the pitch and that with respect is not happening.
Even in the times you mention whilst dire the players still put a shift in if putting a shift is likened
to JET at Forest Saturday and many others this season this club is going one way and one way only.
No you need not go on I was down the bush when you wernt even a twinkle in your dads eye
Perhaps your expectations are too high? Don't many fans think we're at the right level for a club our size? We've got a new manager who needs time to put his mark on the squad. Yes, we've been playing terrible football, but you won't improve the performances by moaning 24/7.
He has a right he pays his money and makes his own mind up just because you don't agree don't throw toys out of the pram.
Good. Personally would rather see a group of grafters moulded into a team than some of the current "stars" not being part of one.
Agree up to a point. The problem is, a lot of the younger players already brought in from lower league clubs haven't really pulled their weight either. The likes of Gladwin, Luongo and JET will need to really stand up and be counted once this anticipated 'fire sale' gets into full swing.
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