Signings with Statistical and visual analysis

[qpr4life]

100% agree. Its why having the right team in place is vital.

We certainly dont have that right now... I'll be controversial right now and say this.

- Chris Ramsey could be the right guy to get things moving. By this I mean, he has good contacts in football especially English football. He could begin to extend our scouting eyesight within London / England areas, he could also bring in some young talent who might not be good enough for the Prem but certainly good enough for QPR. Hall is a great example.
- CR is the next step forward at least, I love Steve Gallen for his work that he's done and the fact he is Mr QPR. But the truth is, he isnt that next step and although I think he should be in the setup somewhere, he certainly isnt a scout or coach going forward to produce top players.

Football is a clicky place and its who you know and who you are in most cases. Les and Chris are no mugs and they will starting producing the goods on a youth level soon enough, but that will take time.

If people think Harriman was the next best RB in English football then you certainly are not aware of the level of football in the Champ / Prem now. Im no scout or coach so its unfair for me to write him off, but at 23 and no other coaches including Les and Chris giving him a chance I very much doubt he will ever be playing in the Prem which is where we want to be.

I also want to add that Furlong is currently not good enough at RB, i'm fed up with hearing this. I do believe if given the right 'development program' then in time he will potentially be on the bench and pushing for a place in our 11. He's played 10 games on loan at Northampton and is now at Cambridge which is a great start for him, pro footie in the football league. If he cuts it there then he has a chance thats for sure because he is only just 20 years of age.

[nasser95]

Thing with stats are they only go so far. Actually scouting and watching player is needed.

Also hope QPR build their foundations on recruiting hungry British players.

Of course, but always, the first steps in a club setting out a scouting mission is through looking at the individual stats. There are a few basic steps to it but it usually begins with the manager setting out his target positions and types of players. Then they send off this info the the numbers people. These guys come up with stats for players within these parameters and the clubs send off a scout to watch anywhere between 1 and 3 games live, filling out a sheet with a set of values and parameters by which they judge the players (think of it as an attribute sheet - things like finishing, pace, ball control etc are all listed usually to my understanding). Most scouts do this, some don't, especially when they have bigger reputations and are generally at the top of their game. Then the info goes back and the manager makes a decision.

Also, one of the biggest issues I have with recruiting British players is the cost. Its so expensive these days to build your hub around Brits.

[Bill]

Workrate has been accounted for, as has injury history. Family is totally irrelevant, attitude is based on hearsay from clubs.

Family is irrelevant so a player wont be affected by a dispute with his mrs or tart or that sort of thing

[Shania]

Workrate has been accounted for, as has injury history. Family is totally irrelevant, attitude is based on hearsay from clubs.

No way it is. What a shocking assumption.

[stanistheman]

Can we keep your findings realistic please? We're a mid table championship club.

Make tbat bottom 3rd Championship side, as was the usual state of affairscpre Warnock's arrival.

[acricketer]

Statistical and visual analysis? Does it work on wives?

[nasser95]

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No way it is. What a shocking assumption.

Wait wait wait, I think you've misunderstood. I've gauged my understanding of their attitude based on what I've heard from their clubs fans etc.

[nasser95]

Family is irrelevant so a player wont be affected by a dispute with his mrs or tart or that sort of thing

This is you looking for reasons to question the listings. I have no information available to me regarding familial disputes so I have to base my decisions on everything I can find. Therefore, with respect to my findings, the familial issues of a player are irrelevant.

[Shania]

Wait wait wait, I think you've misunderstood. I've gauged my understanding of their attitude based on what I've heard from their clubs fans etc.

OK, thats better

Try to scan Markus Henriksen while you are studing players in Holland. I just wonder how you would rate him?

[nasser95]

[/B]

OK, thats better

Try to scan Markus Henriksen while you are studing players in Holland. I just wonder how you would rate him?

Oh I love Markus, I'll definitely do a view on him

[Shania]

Thank you very much, Nasser95. I look forward to the result.

[Hitman34]

interesting thread. if anyone can, go buy a copy of todays mail newspaper. big write up about all this signing players based on stats.

villa intoduced this and sherwood states it was the reason for his demise. villa brought in a dof who gave sherwood a selection of potential signings. sherwood had to pick from a list made by statitions and approved by the dof.

sounds just like us.

sherwood puts down villa's shyte season to this and not being able to sign the players that he wanted.

[nasser95]

interesting thread. if anyone can, go buy a copy of todays mail newspaper. big write up about all this signing players based on stats.

villa intoduced this and sherwood states it was the reason for his demise. villa brought in a dof who gave sherwood a selection of potential signings. sherwood had to pick from a list made by statitions and approved by the dof.

sounds just like us.

sherwood puts down villa's shyte season to this and not being able to sign the players that he wanted.

At the same time, Moyes used stats so prominently at Everton to bring them success. They did everything right with regards to stats. Ultimately, if the manager doesn't have faith in a system it won't work. Moyes did, Ferguson did, Wenger does, that's why stats work for them. Man City have one of the biggest analyst sectors in the UK. Look at the quality of their players and youth academy.

[nasser95]

Kevin Constant - Left Back/Defensive Midfielder/Left Mid, 28 Years Old, Free Agent (Last at Trabzonspor), Guinea.
2 Assists in 707 Minutes playing 7 games at left back and one in Defensive midfield.
Constant would be coming to Loftus Road with a wealth of experience, having played almost 100 games in Serie A; 79 games in Ligue 2 and 22 Games in the Super Lig to name a few, while also having 12 Champions League appearances and 6 Europa League appearances, this is a player who can bring a lot of confidence to the club. We know too well about underperforming players who think they are too good for the club. I don’t think we will have any come in this January under the same impression, with our league position so dire. If Constant does come here, expect him to work hard for the team and offer plenty both defensively and going forward.

At 184 cm tall, Constant will certainly be no slouch in the air and he has proven this by having the best aerial presence in his league at left back, winning 1.6 aerial duels out of the two he makes on average per game. Bear in mind this is in a league more focussed on the ground elements of play - another sector of performance he does quite well in, making 2.3 successful tackles per game and only losing out 0.6 times on average while also intercepting 2.6 times per game and making in total 1.6 blocks per game, although these are primarily from passes, his cross blocking is only at 0.3 per game but again, to my knowledge this isn’t a league where crosses are prominent, with the best full back at this attribute of cross blocking only managing 0.9 per game. I’m sure that in a more wide league such as the championship, he will produce more.

Offensively, he has managed to produce the third most long key passes per game in his league in his position while also playing the most passes in the league in his position at 49.2 per game, only missing 8.6. I’d say he’d be a handy asset in keeping the ball when we are trying to move through the phases.

[Shania]

Is he a quick player, Nasser95?? I just Wonder.