Once more clueless inexperienced managerial appointment.

[Buffalo]

This kind of thread is exactly the reason I don't bother posting or using this forum much these days. Too many melts/drama queens/armchair managers, posting rants without any sound reasoning behind them. Too many hateful vendettas against people at the club who are doing their best for the club.

Ipswich are above us in the table for a reason - we don't have a divine right to go there and win.

[dogsrrs]

This LF vendata is getting silly now, do you really believe what you have just written?

A good 50% of that post is true , you have supported QPR long enough to know under LF we have suffered the most dire Dross that you and I and many others have ever known LF has to take full blame for appointing Ramsey to 1st team coach and the debacle he made of the playing staff , I come from a family of 5 generations of QPR supporters and can never forgive those 2 muppets for what they have done to a big part of my families lives

NO CORRECTION 30% IS TRUE

[dogsrrs]

The OP is just stupid.

I had my reservations about JFH because of not managing at this level but mainly because of the effect Warnock had on the team. Warnock seemed to had galvanised the players and also found a way to keep us from conceding.

Lets remeber the players are on their 3rd manager of the season and JFH is now trying to impose a new playing style on them. My issue with this is I dont think we have the players to play the way JFH wants to or they certainly are not fit enough.

Warnock played to our strengths and under warnock we would of made a push for the playoffs. JFH is rebuilding the philosophy of the whole team and to implement that it will take time as hes not playing to the squads strengths right now but planning for the future.

I dont mind this but its slowly dawned on me that we will not be making the playoffs this year. The only other criticism I do have right now is the omission of chery and JEt who are our 2nd and 3rd highest goal scorers of the season behind charlie and especially as Fer keeps under performing. Plus Luongo who I thought was quality beginning of season.

Maids understand this Jimmy Floyd has to rebuild if Warnock had stayed he would have had to rebuild or anybody else who took the job the damage that's been done to to the squad gone to far and needs a complete overhaul , sadly this season is gone barring a miracle

[Bill]

Once more a clueless post!

Exactly

[Brian Wilson]

A good 50% of that post is true , you have supported QPR long enough to know under LF we have suffered the most dire Dross that you and I and many others have ever known LF has to take full blame for appointing Ramsey to 1st team coach and the debacle he made of the playing staff , I come from a family of 5 generations of QPR supporters and can never forgive those 2 muppets for what they have done to a big part of my families lives

NO CORRECTION 30% IS TRUE

Surely you have experienced far worse times as a QPR fan than the last year or so with Les Ferdinand as DOF? Also did Les not provide you with some good times scoring all those goals during the 90's? but you cant forgive him for "what they have done to a big part of my families lives".

[hal9thou]

It's just the constant stream of clueless appointments that riles. There was absolutely no evidence that JFH could succeed at this level, there was no evidence that Ramsey could succeed and absolutely zilch evidence that Les would make a DoF - that's if you accept a club of our size needs one in the first place. What makes it so much worse was how obviously questionable these decisions were at the time.

[Stanley]

It's just the constant stream of clueless appointments that riles. There was absolutely no evidence that JFH could succeed at this level, there was no evidence that Ramsey could succeed and absolutely zilch evidence that Les would make a DoF - that's if you accept a club of our size needs one in the first place. What makes it so much worse was how obviously questionable these decisions were at the time.

Where was the evidence that Karanka would succeed at Boro?

Where was the evidence that Clement would succeed at Derby?

I could go on.

[hal9thou]

Where was the evidence that Clement would succeed at Derby?

I venture to suggest that his CV would make him a stronger candidate back in the real world than JFH. I hoped we were trying to entice him here a long while back and said so.

Yup there will be exceptions, but NW's brief tenure suggested that experience at this level might be compatible with our interests at this point in time. There is still no evidence of rational decision making at our club - imo, of course.

[QPRHoop]

I venture to suggest that his CV would make him a stronger candidate back in the real world than JFH. I hoped we were trying to entice him here a long while back and said so.

Yup there will be exceptions, but NW's brief tenure suggested that experience at this level might be compatible with our interests at this point in time. There is still no evidence of rational decision making at our club - imo, of course.

Clement has had no experience has a manager and as we all know quality coaches don't always make quality managers so no evidence whatsoever he was going to do well. JFH has the playing experience and he got a team promoted and top the next season.

But more importantly than that is that's it's been 4 fricking games so no way of knowing if he is going to be a success of not. Can't believe (well I can these days with the short termism in football fans) that people are questioning his management when he is trying to change the way we play so won't be an overnight thing. At least let's wait until end of the season but even then it's still not enough time in my opinion.

[Greg1882]

I venture to suggest that his CV would make him a stronger candidate back in the real world than JFH. I hoped we were trying to entice him here a long while back and said so.

Yup there will be exceptions, but NW's brief tenure suggested that experience at this level might be compatible with our interests at this point in time. There is still no evidence of rational decision making at our club - imo, of course.

Not really . He'd never been a manager before . Jfh has a promotion on his cv so you could argue he has a better one

[Greg1882]

How many did the great Paul ####ing clement win in his first 4 Derby games btw ? Remind us ?

[hal9thou]

How many did the great Paul ####ing clement win in his first 4 Derby games btw ? Remind us ?

I'm not calling for JFH's head after four games, although I think the one year roller was at least a sign of reality kicking in. I'm just saying that I think its a suspect appointment, as I said before it was made. Plus Clement has QPR roots (not that you respect those) and I suggest his experience at Chelsea and Real under some legendary gaffers represents a CV at least equal to JFH's... none of this is hindsight btw.

Clement also has a higher win ratio as manager than JFH has taking their whole careers into context, but let's not got too real - it upsets people and in any case there isnt enough data re Clement. Bottom line is Derby saw fit to appoint him, and maybe they saw something in his CV.....

[qpr]

Neil Warnock was the only man, end of

[Greg1882]

I'm not calling for JFH's head after four games, although I think the one year roller was at least a sign of reality kicking in. I'm just saying that I think its a suspect appointment, as I said before it was made. Plus Clement has QPR roots (not that you respect those) and I suggest his experience at Chelsea and Real under some legendary gaffers represents a CV at least equal to JFH's... none of this is hindsight btw.

Clement also has a higher win ratio as manager than JFH has taking their whole careers into context, but let's not got too real - it upsets people and in any case there isnt enough data re Clement. Bottom line is Derby saw fit to appoint him, and maybe they saw something in his CV.....

Your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine but don't go throwing around comments like I don't respect the clement/QPR connection . You know absolutely nothing about me . My point was that jfh has walked into to a bit of a shambles with players not fit enough to complete 90 minutes at a decent standard and no striking back up for the umpteenth season running . He's working with his hands tied but I suspect that if people actually give him some time and not throw their toys out of the pram after 4 bloody games we will start to reap the benefits over a longer period of time . That's not aimed at you btw but you've only got to have a quick flick through social media and people are actually losing their minds over boxing days result like its the end of the world . A win tomorrow and those same people will be creaming their pants . We're the most fickle of them all

[QPR Rickson]

Playing with 1 upfront, Henry getting in front of players like luongo Sandro cherry. Polter starting in front of jet. Going into games with a negative attitude of trying not to lose rather than with the mentality of trying to win. Ain't they things we can discuss on here without being labelled a Karnt supporter? Fact is we're still winless under JFh and I ain't seen much difference from when ramsey was in charge. I would say JFh honeymoon period is over. But he never had 1 in first place.