Formation 4-6-0

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

He did play Fer up front. But because no one here has ever seen that it becomes a bad decision.

It was a bad decision yes. He's a centre midfielder firstly, secondly he didn't do a thing striker wise and thirdly he was so far back I wouldn't call that playing up front. Maybe the fact he's not a striker is a reason he didn't look all that when he came on. Just a hunch.

[West Acton]

Was peculiar sub but Fer did go and play up top not deep so not sure where the zero up top comes from but if it gives fans another branch to beat the manager with why not

For fe got sub's wrong again. I would have put Fer on for Toszer and dropped mas back deeper and put Fer in his position and if Jet did need to come off probably put Hoilett up top.

[knocker]

Firstly, not digging my head in the sand, I actually do have things to do beyond this forum. Secondly, I agree that we should have had polter on the bench if he was fit and available. That being said, based on who was there, taking off JET and bringing on Fer made a lot of sense to me. Again, they both are big guys with good feet and like to drop into the spaces in between the defensive and midfield lines to bring in other players. When fer came on, he drew players towards him and generally did a lot of work. Would I have rather Polter come on? sure, but am I going to say it was a bad sub? no, JET is clearly tiring and he's had fitness issues in the past and at times comes across lackadaisical off the ball. He's a great talent and a good player on the ball and occasionally tracks back well. But fer does the same and he was more fit at that point to do damage.
As for whether I think we played well, yea I do. We defended really well for one of the first times this season against a team on form. We were consistent for 90 minutes as opposed to the last 40 or so. All the players knew what their job was and created chances as a result. To have 10 shots inside the box is impressive to be honest and shows that we have the impetus to go forward. To do that while keeping a clean sheet is mightily impressive as well. If you think that Fer played in midfield, you should see the positions where he took his touches because they were primarily in and around the box. He and Jet - as I have already said - occupy the same spaces.
Am I here trolling or just to wind people up? Of course not, just because I'm positive doesn't make me a troll. I'm sorry that I'm not doom and gloom or that I don't take what I see with my eyes as the absolute fact but that's how I am. I don't have 20 20 vision and even if I did, I wouldn't trust my eyes enough to discount the numbers laid in front of me.

The stats from this message board suggest you are deluded.

[West London is Rss]

We could be bottom of League 2 and Nasser would still defend the inexcusable...

[ChiswickHoop]

I don't really get the negativity for this here. I was initially confused by the substitution but to be honest, Fer and Jet aren't too different. Its not like the sub reduced the amount of chances we got. In fact, we actually had more shots per minute after the substitution was made. We want to be able to use JET as much as possible so we have to take what we can. A draw today is a good result relative to what many expected,. We were extremely unlucky not to win that and they really never looked too dangerous (at least compared to us). More shocked by all the booing at the end. Consider that we kept a clean sheet against a team who scored 10 in the last 5 games and we generally outplayed them and Chery should have scored were it not for an incredible save by Westwood. All in all im happy with the result and performance and hope to push on come saturday.

You must be either a troll or Chris Ramsey himself.

That was another dreadful performance saved only by the referee ignoring a blatent red and a penalty youve seen given plenty of times.

The sub showed what a defeatist negative manager CR is, the fact we had 2 defensive midfielders and no strikers on the pitch at home is inexcusable.

[THE CAT]

You must be either a troll or Chris Ramsey himself.

That was another dreadful performance saved only by the referee ignoring a blatent red and a penalty youve seen given plenty of times.

The sub showed what a defeatist negative manager CR is, the fact we had 2 defensive midfielders and no strikers on the pitch at home is inexcusable.

Exactly this, we should have been down to 10 men after 30 mins or so, and would have more than likely gone on to lose the game.

Although we kept a clean sheet our defending was appalling again. They had two wide free kicks in the first half where they had two men just walk into the 6 yard box unopposed and would have stuck it in if the delivery was not so poor.

Also, for the penalty decision what about the way the guy just ran through from the halfway line on his own and could quite easily have seen the pen given and red card.

Then towards the end a big long ball from them and our defensive strategy is to let the ball bounce in our own box gifting them possession and a great position.

Now these are not just individual mistakes but the set up of the defence which, to me is all over the place.

Ramsey has lost the dressing room, his own players are criticising him and we are not getting any better whatsoever.

[Rangers77]

S hit performance, rubbish formation, rubbish sub. Terrible. Impressive? Not if the word means, as it should, "evoking admiration through size, quality, or skill; grand, imposing, or awesome".....

[nasser95]

It was a bad decision yes. He's a centre midfielder firstly, secondly he didn't do a thing striker wise and thirdly he was so far back I wouldn't call that playing up front. Maybe the fact he's not a striker is a reason he didn't look all that when he came on. Just a hunch.

He was so far back? Check yourself mate, I have his and JET's touch maps here and they are both in roughly the same position. Notice how the eyes see what they want? As for not looking all that, I think you saw a different player because fer held the ball and opened space for a few chances

[Shepherds Mush]

He was so far back? Check yourself mate, I have his and JET's touch maps here and they are both in roughly the same position. Notice how the eyes see what they want? As for not looking all that, I think you saw a different player because fer held the ball and opened space for a few chances

Was it my imagination or was JET mostly in the position a winger would be? I could be wrong but I can't remember him being in the box once in the second half.

[bakes8]

He was so far back? Check yourself mate, I have his and JET's touch maps here and they are both in roughly the same position. Notice how the eyes see what they want? As for not looking all that, I think you saw a different player because fer held the ball and opened space for a few chances

Fer is a midfielder mate, not a forward. How about we stick Rob Green up front as well? Square pegs for Square holes.

Get a forward up front ffs.

[nasser95]

Was it my imagination or was JET mostly in the position a winger would be? I could be wrong but I can't remember him being in the box once in the second half.

Yea from what I can see, he took about 27 of his 40 touches all game out wide either right or left. he took 3 in the box. In the time he was on, Leroy took 3 in the box although they were on the side of the box and took 3 out of 13 touches out wide. Most were central in a position just outside the box.

[march56]

Was it my imagination or was JET mostly in the position a winger would be? I could be wrong but I can't remember him being in the box once in the second half.

not your imagination mush
JET spent more time out wide than up top.

[nasser95]

Fer is a midfielder mate, not a forward. How about we stick Rob Green up front as well? Square pegs for Square holes.

Get a forward up front ffs.

Fer has played forward in the past for Netherlands as a Sub and for Feyenoord. Fer has the same qualities as JET in terms of size, strength, better jumping, Passing, dribbling, long shooting. Just because a player is listed in a position, doesn't mean he can't play in another. But people just wanna criticise CR so they will find anything they can.

[Kit]

The fact is that we didn't have another striker on the bench ! What if JET had pulled up early, as it is stated he was carrying a knock. Polter should have been on the bench as cover at least so we had another option, FER is an addition to the front line not a striker. Ramsey is confusing himself and for Nasser to say we outplayed Weds ? We were rubbish they were rubbish, we got lucky, they were unlucky......they are the facts from last night. Yes Chery could have scored but before that we should have been down to 10 men and probably a pen against us too, nobody would have been getting too upset had those decisions been given.

[brightonr]

Fer has played forward in the past for Netherlands as a Sub and for Feyenoord. Fer has the same qualities as JET in terms of size, strength, better jumping, Passing, dribbling, long shooting. Just because a player is listed in a position, doesn't mean he can't play in another. But people just wanna criticise CR so they will find anything they can.

Nasser, I'm sure we would all rather be praising him for picking the right players, in the right formations and playing an entertaining brand of football, rather than for strange team selections, poor substitutions and some of the most mind numbingly boring rubbish that most of us have witnessed in years.

I may be wrong, but do a poll if you want a stat.