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  • #46
    Originally posted by Stanley View Post
    With Onuoha playing in front of Green we'll ship goals every game.
    Angella and Hall for CB.
    Captain should have been Charles or Ale.
    Agree

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rodman View Post
      So what you're actually saying is Green should have done what Onuoha SHOULD have done in the first place.

      Onuoha should have put it in row z, either before or after he had let it bounce first (again).

      Instead he leathered to Green for him to deal with when it should have already been sorted.
      completely wrong imho. If you are saying you want our players to leather it out every time as opposed to going back to the keeper, we will have such low possession of the ball each game. Would get real boring, real quick if we continually lump it out of play as opposed to lay it back to the keeper.

      Nothing wrong with his pass back to Green. A keeper is expected to be able to deal with that sort of pass every time in modern football and is 100% greens fault.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Post
        completely wrong imho. If you are saying you want our players to leather it out every time as opposed to going back to the keeper, we will have such low possession of the ball each game. Would get real boring, real quick if we continually lump it out of play as opposed to lay it back to the keeper.

        Nothing wrong with his pass back to Green. A keeper is expected to be able to deal with that sort of pass every time in modern football and is 100% greens fault.
        spot on!
        green gets paid enough money to deal with something like that!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Stanley View Post
          With Onuoha playing in front of Green we'll ship goals every game.
          Angella and Hall for CB.
          Captain should have been Charles or Ale.

          IMO
          YMMV
          ETC...
          Really ? Thought those 2 played in most of the games when we got that clean sheet record. I think the way the team is organised has more to do with it. Ramsey is who you should be looking at .....
          IMO
          YMMV
          ETC...

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          • #50
            For what little my opinion is worth, his back pass was fine. The crowd actually clapped it. It wasn't over pacy, or long, it was a direct ball that just needed to be kicked at the first attempt. No, silly b0llox tries to be clever and loses us the game and 3 points. Like Ned as a fella, dislike as a footballer. He's just not for me, but that was 100% Greens fault.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Stanley View Post
              With Onuoha playing in front of Green we'll ship goals every game.
              Angella and Hall for CB.
              Captain should have been Charles or Ale.

              IMO
              YMMV
              ETC...
              Originally posted by A Man Without A Clue View Post
              Really ? Thought those 2 played in most of the games when we got that clean sheet record. I think the way the team is organised has more to do with it. Ramsey is who you should be looking at .....
              IMO
              YMMV
              ETC...
              Yes, really.

              Green and Onuoha are both error-prone. Ned's distribution has always been his weakness, and he was at fault again for Hull's goal.

              Smithies had a good game vs Blackburn and didn't deserve to get dropped; and nor did Hall who has been excellent in every game he's played.

              IMO
              YMMV
              ETC...

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              • #52
                To sum defensive things up after reading post in here from the last 10 days
                Green is prone to errorr
                Pearch is terrible defending and can not make a pass
                Onuoha is a mess, can't head the ball away, no distribution, take off him the captains badge
                Angella can shout but can't play ball
                Konchesky is to old and to slow

                No wonder this lot has shipped in 1,63 goals per game

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by A Man Without A Clue View Post
                  Dawson is their best header of the ball , bit surprised Ned was marking him TBH .
                  Good stat this is though https://twitter.com/WhoScored/status/644540380621467648
                  What that shows is a positional sense that centre backs lack. I remember a stat that Paulo Maldini in his prime made only 1 tackle every two league games. If Ned did that, people would say he can't win the ball. What it showed with Maldini is that his positional sense was so good he never needed to tackle, he'd just intercept the ball early. That's what Ned is doing every single game for us (Obviously to a lesser extent than Maldini) although Ned still manages to chip in with a huge amount of tackles. People who say he doesn't have a footballing brain are just looking for an excuse.
                  Last edited by nasser95; 22-09-2015, 02:23 PM.
                  "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                  • #54
                    I like Onuoha and think he's our number one CB all day long. Better than Hall and Angella on what I've seen so far.
                    Top Scorers 2018/2019

                    Nakhi Wells - 8
                    Pawel Wszolek - 6
                    Luke Freeman - 6
                    Matt Smith - 6
                    Ebere Eze - 4
                    Joel Lynch - 3
                    Tomer Hemed - 3
                    Toni Leistner - 2
                    Massimo Luongo- 2
                    Angel Rangel - 2
                    Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                    Geoff Cameron - 1
                    Aramide Oteh - 1
                    Jake Bidwell - 1
                    Jordan Cousins - 1

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                      I like Onuoha and think he's our number one CB all day long. Better than Hall and Angella on what I've seen so far.


                      Used to love an afternoon pint myself Ginge.

                      Enjoy mate

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                        What that shows is a positional sense that centre backs lack. I remember a stat that Paulo Maldini in his prime made only 1 tackle every two league games. If Ned did that, people would say he can't win the ball. What it showed with Maldini is that his positional sense was so good he never needed to tackle, he'd just intercept the ball early. That's what Ned is doing every single game for us (Obviously to a lesser extent than Maldini) although Ned still manages to chip in with a huge amount of tackles. People who say he doesn't have a footballing brain are just looking for an excuse.
                        Nasser, you must be young because you narf talk some ####.. Everybody is entitled to an opinion but putting Onouha and Maldini in the same sentence. Tut, tut.
                        C'Mon You Supaaaa!!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by upperloft View Post
                          Nasser, you must be young because you narf talk some ####.. Everybody is entitled to an opinion but putting Onouha and Maldini in the same sentence. Tut, tut.
                          Why don't you actually read what I said instead of just making a judgement based on two farking names. I said that sometimes a centre back's quality is more based on his positional awareness than anything else. I used maldini as an example with extreme statistics that highlight the statement. I never compared them in quality. Try reading a bit more. Also, for the record, I'm 21.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                            Why don't you actually read what I said instead of just making a judgement based on two farking names. I said that sometimes a centre back's quality is more based on his positional awareness than anything else. I used maldini as an example with extreme statistics that highlight the statement. I never compared them in quality. Try reading a bit more. Also, for the record, I'm 21.
                            Calm down bullit... So you are a kid.. 21. Think you could use a better example than Maldini. The geezer was world class, WC, CL, ETC, ETC I don't see one thing in Onouhas game that resembles anything what Maldini did. I'm sure if Onouha is as good as you say we wouldn't be shipping as many goals as we do.
                            C'Mon You Supaaaa!!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by upperloft View Post
                              Calm down bullit... So you are a kid.. 21. Think you could use a better example than Maldini. The geezer was world class, WC, CL, ETC, ETC I don't see one thing in Onouhas game that resembles anything what Maldini did. I'm sure if Onouha is as good as you say we wouldn't be shipping as many goals as we do.
                              The point I made was not a resembling of their quality but rather of the fact that Maldini's quality was based on the fact that he positioned himself in a way to make many interceptions. Onuoha does that as well. Certainly not the the extent or quality that Maldini does but you look at the statistical extremes to highlight a quality. If I said look at Wes Morgan and the way he plays, no one would give two farks because Wes Morgan did not do anything to define the positioning game. Just like people talk about the Makelele position or Busquets position, we can say the intercepting centre back is the Maldini position because he defined that role.
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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