Austin's Contract

[Kit]

So think about it another way, Charlie doesn't sign a new contract and stays on £20k pw and thinks his got a big pay day coming, in April/May his does his shoulder again or breaks a leg etc, he then has no contract with us and no club offers him a deal and his signing on fee goes. So it will be in his interest to sign a deal doubling or more his wages with a reasonable loyalty bonus as he safe guards the next few years and with a clause he can still go if all things go well.

Think if we do well next few games and are are still Top 4 come October, Charlie might use this logic and sign a new contract with a release cause, as it makes sense for both parties. I do though struggle to get my head around someone not being happy with 20k a week but i suppose it is all relative to his situation and of course if we want him to stay longer which of course we do, we will have to pay up.

[nasser95]

People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.

[très bon don]

Any big club that wanted him imo would have already bought him. Charlie's great for the PL but he isn't going to make the difference in the Champions League, and for that reason Man Utd, Chelsea, City will not sign him.

Wenger is very selective about who he goes for and is holding out for a TOP player á la Sanchez/Ozil. Liverpool could do with him but they only play with 1 #9 and already have Ings, Benteke, Sturridge, Origi, plus Chaz supposedly doesn't want to live up north.

Only 'big' team that I could see going for him is Spurs, who are probably going to burn Kane out this season and need a striker./ Maybe West Ham?

[Ramsey is god]

People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.

I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. I am 99% certain (would have been 100% but your clearly the 1%), that every fan of their club wants them to spend as little as possible without compromising the quality of player.

fact is Charlie will be legally allowed to talk to clubs one he is in his last 6 months of a contract. He may delay that decision to see how our season pans out, but in all likelyhood, a deal will most probably be agreed with another club in January, where he moves at the end of the season.

Still think if we do bounce back, we have a good chance of re-signing him.

This injury concern is nonsense as well.

[Hove Ranger]

People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.

You seem to be basing top clubs' transfer policies on what the fans want or demand which is not the case. I agree that fans always demand more but I disagree that teams do whatever they ask for. If it was the case they wouldnt be top clubs anymore as they would constantly be signing players that the manger doesn't particularly want or at least has highlighted or players that don't fit the specific system of the team. Also the reason top clubs don't seem to sign many free transfers is because it is not often that top, top players are available on a free, mainly because their current teams wouldnt want to lose them for free.

[1QPRDK]

Any big club that wanted him imo would have already bought him. Charlie's great for the PL but he isn't going to make the difference in the Champions League, and for that reason Man Utd, Chelsea, City will not sign him.

Wenger is very selective about who he goes for and is holding out for a TOP player á la Sanchez/Ozil. Liverpool could do with him but they only play with 1 #9 and already have Ings, Benteke, Sturridge, Origi, plus Chaz supposedly doesn't want to live up north.

Only 'big' team that I could see going for him is Spurs, who are probably going to burn Kane out this season and need a striker./ Maybe West Ham?

How can you say that? Nobody knows how he would play in the CL. Each time he has been asked to step up, he has done it. You can´t argue with that. I think he would step up again, and be massive in a CL team, but maybe that´s just me...

[upperloft]

People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.

Let's see at the end of the season, if he does not sign a contract, think he will end up at Chelsea. Charlie Austin on a free transfer every team in the prem will want him.

[Ramsey is god]

Let's see at the end of the season, if he does not sign a contract, think he will end up at Chelsea. Charlie Austin on a free transfer every team in the prem will want him.

PLEASE NO! dont think i could take it if he went to them.

Everton love a cheap deal, think he will be playing for them next year.

[Shania]

How can yohu say that? Nobody knows how he would play in the CL. Each time he has been asked to step up, he has done it. You can´t argue with that. I think he would step up again, and be massive in a CL team, but maybe that´s just me...

No it´s not just you, He will deliver like the rest of the QPR team will in the CL come 2019.

[nasser95]

I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. I am 99% certain (would have been 100% but your clearly the 1%), that every fan of their club wants them to spend as little as possible without compromising the quality of player.

fact is Charlie will be legally allowed to talk to clubs one he is in his last 6 months of a contract. He may delay that decision to see how our season pans out, but in all likelyhood, a deal will most probably be agreed with another club in January, where he moves at the end of the season.

Still think if we do bounce back, we have a good chance of re-signing him.

This injury concern is nonsense as well.

I can only think of 1 or 2 big signings that were free that fans didn't pan immediately and those were Lewandowski and Pirlo. Look at the prem examples for free transfers: Chamakh, Milner, Kolo Toure, Joe Cole, Voronin.

That 99% certainty is only for clubs our size or slightly bigger. When you look at the really big clubs (man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham), their fans get sickened when the club buys on the cheap. At the end of the day, fickle fans are fickle and they will put value as an indication of quality. I don't get how you don't see that. You just have to look at the examples above and the numerous others.

[nasser95]

You seem to be basing top clubs' transfer policies on what the fans want or demand which is not the case. I agree that fans always demand more but I disagree that teams do whatever they ask for. If it was the case they wouldnt be top clubs anymore as they would constantly be signing players that the manger doesn't particularly want or at least has highlighted or players that don't fit the specific system of the team. Also the reason top clubs don't seem to sign many free transfers is because it is not often that top, top players are available on a free, mainly because their current teams wouldnt want to lose them for free.

This is a quote straight from Tony Fernandes and it without a doubt holds true for every single club in football.

Two things are different from AirAsia. One is I can control almost everything in AirAsia. You can do whatever you want in football, but it's up to the eleven guys on the pitch at the end of the day, right? The second thing is, you have a very vocal bunch of shareholders - called fans. Everyone has an opinion.

Look at Barcelona and Real Madrid as examples here, they have presidential campaigns for the club and in those campaigns, the candidates will actually offer to sign the players the fans are hoping to see the club buy.

Also, Ignore them being free necessarily, top clubs have a vendetta (arsenal to a degree withheld from this criticism) against cheap signings. Fans always want the money the club earns to be reinvested into the club. Simple as that. Hence why the Glazers are hated up in manchester. They run the club like a business and make a profit, then take it out of the club for themselves.

[dsqpr]

This is a quote straight from Tony Fernandes and it without a doubt holds true for every single club in football.

Not sure that strengthens your point nasser! (Sorry Tony!)

In any case, I agree with Hove - top clubs are expected to sign top players and top players are almost never available on a free. There are many things about Charlie's situation that are very unusual, IMHO.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Do you reckon liverpool would of took ings to be the tea boy if he wasnt for nishmans?

[dsqpr]

Do you reckon liverpool would of took ings to be the tea boy if he wasnt for nishmans?

I'm gonna need a translation on this!

[Kevin Mcleod]

Nish = Nothing/Free
Tea Boy = Young person who serves tea to other people.
Liverpoool = Land of thieves in the north of england.