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Why are we conceding so many goals??
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Agree, we're a CB short. Bearing in mind we let 10 GK & Defenders go in the Summer and so far only recruited 3
Davies would be good, but we'll only spend £1m+ if we sell someone IMO. Otherwise it's bargain basement or loan. Whatever happened to the Liverpool CB loan ? Llori ???
That any maybe bring Gerry Francis in short term (3 month) to coach ??
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Defence has been our achilles heel for the best part of 5 years now. We continually go for the cheap options rather than spending on quality and solving the problem, hence the likes of Perch joining. You can't build a good defence out of freebies/.
Plus our coaching is obviously not up to scratch.
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Originally posted by très bon don View PostDefence has been our achilles heel for the best part of 5 years now. We continually go for the cheap options rather than spending on quality and solving the problem, hence the likes of Perch joining. You can't build a good defence out of freebies/.
Plus our coaching is obviously not up to scratch.
£12m Samba.
£8m(?) Caulker.
Only a loan but we also got in a Copa America winning RB in Isla.You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
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Originally posted by West London is Rss View PostIn the league we have scored for fun and once again Charlie is top scorer in the Champ so far but at the other end of the pitch its been a diff story to say the least!!
With our back four, on paper i would say that its a solid one with the additions of Perch and Konchesky so just interested to see people's views on why we have been conceding so many?
Is it just purely that we are now playing more open?
Nedum and Perch (Going forward) isnt poor. Still need another solid CB, but a top CB from somewhere... also missing Yun personally.
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Originally posted by QPR1976 View PostAgree, we're a CB short. Bearing in mind we let 10 GK & Defenders go in the Summer and so far only recruited 3
Davies would be good, but we'll only spend £1m+ if we sell someone IMO. Otherwise it's bargain basement or loan. Whatever happened to the Liverpool CB loan ? Llori ???
That any maybe bring Gerry Francis in short term (3 month) to coach ??
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Originally posted by bakes8 View PostSandro.
Think we are a centre back and Sandro away from a decent defence. Full back positions are ok.... Got a bit of cover at LB to come in as well. Hall is decent but probably back-up for now. Davies and a fit Sandro and we're motoring (IMO)
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Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostYou're right with your opening line, but I can't say I agree with the bti about going for cheap options.
£12m Samba.
£8m(?) Caulker.
Only a loan but we also got in a Copa America winning RB in Isla.
Aside from that we've gone for low fees with the likes of Dunne, Nelsen, Luke Young, Simpson, Konchesky, etc. Not all of them were failures, but when you consider the money wasted in other positions we should have focused on building the defence a bit more. You don't need to break the bank either, someone like Huth would've done last year.
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Two things:
1. Defence (and attack) is a TEAM responsibility. If you choose to throw players forward in search of goals you are bound to concede a few. Man Utd have played that way for as long as I can remember. Unlike our despised neighbours, who have tended to do the opposite.
2. It takes time for new defenders to get used to their defensive partners.
I'd say give it a bit of time. And don't complain if we continue to concede two but score three every match!'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.
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A few reasons. The defensive midfielder whether that's Henry or faurlin or gobern aren't mobile enough to act as protection in front of the back 4 so hence they're clearly be overall exposed. Another problem is a lack of leadership ie communication. I also don't see a partner being built up. As a centre half you normally have 2 centre half's with 'different' attributes. For me this really complements each other and covers defending against either pace or a battering ram. Some also comes down to fitness which we lack as conceded far too many goals in the last10 mins. Lack of fitness effects the mind so concentration becomes an issue in the latter stages.I played sunday league football today.
Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.
I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.
We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!
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