This what you call a balanced report

[Kirill]

But it's still all TF's fault and everyone who can't see that is deluded, right mate?

No, our cup exit is not TF's fault.
He is too busy sabotaging global oil prices.

[dogsrrs]

If we play the full team we run the risk of a) potentially winning which would be devistating b) causing injury and c) not having a fully fit team for the game on the weekend. I was bemused when you said we would struggle to avoid relegation. Really. Are you honestly that daft and i can assure you that a blind man would actually think we wernt that lucky to get 7 points and that we deserved it.

err since when did 6 teams get relegated , you actually think we wern't lucky to get a draw from Cardiff you don't think the Wolves game could have gone either way you don't think we were hanging on at the death against Rotherham ?

[Stanley]

you actually think we wern't lucky to get a draw from Cardiff you don't think the Wolves game could have gone either way you don't think we were hanging on at the death against Rotherham ?

But that's entirely typical of Championship games. Most of them can easily go either way as it's such a competitive league. You make your own luck to a certain extent and the bottom line is we're in 6th place having had 2 wins, a draw, and a loss. The loss was against the team in 3rd and the draw against a team one place below us. And encouragingly results so far have all improved exponentially.

[Romford Hoop]

Not the meltdown crap in here in the last few days.

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footbal...rs/news/40054/

Thats not a balanced report it is one sided biased tosh, I was there Tuesday and saw players who frankly are not good enough,the report says Gobern helped run the midfield,that is a laughable comment,the kids looked way out there depth and will all fade into oblivion.

I do not care to much about the cup, however Tuesday showed our squad is paper thin and there is not much to back up the first 11, which also has a few weaknesses.

[Rangers77]

Goburn couldn't, it seemed Tuesday, run a bath, let alone a midfield.

[West London is Rss]

But it's still all TF's fault and everyone who can't see that is deluded, right mate?

Most things that have led to the problems and where we are now are 100% TF's fault and mistakes.

'The buck stops with him' as he says.

[nasser95]

Did Nasser right this .. balanced view my a3se.. the blokes as happy clappy as they come!!

Calling me out... Top Stuff mate, do you ever get bored of complaining about your football club?

[West London is Rss]

Calling me out... Top Stuff mate, do you ever get bored of complaining about your football club?

Can never get bored about being realistic about my football club mate.

Cant paper over the cracks of the past as easily as some can......

[dogsrrs]

But that's entirely typical of Championship games. Most of them can easily go either way as it's such a competitive league. You make your own luck to a certain extent and the bottom line is we're in 6th place having had 2 wins, a draw, and a loss. The loss was against the team in 3rd and the draw against a team one place below us. And encouragingly results so far have all improved exponentially.

I don't disagree that the results arnt encouraging , but I certainly don't think we are playing like a team that has discipline we are playing like team of 3 parts the forwards do their part well the m/f their part well but separately from the defence the defence is a weak shambles , imo the only way for the side to get cohesion is using any chance of playing in cups or league

[nasser95]

Can never get bored about being realistic about my football club mate.

Cant paper over the cracks of the past as easily as some can......

You want realistic mate? Here you go, here are the cold hard facts: We are 6th in the league, we've come back from losing to beat one of the league favourites, we've scored the most goals in the league, we've conceded 2 goals a game, we have made some excellent signings and have a squad full of youth and energy. The club is being run much better than it was last season and before thanks to Les and Hoos helping guide the club in a positive direction and finally, we have an owner who is willing to put his money where his mouth is in the long run. Facts

[West London is Rss]

You want realistic mate? Here you go, here are the cold hard facts: We are 6th in the league, we've come back from losing to beat one of the league favourites, we've scored the most goals in the league, we've conceded 2 goals a game, we have made some excellent signings and have a squad full of youth and energy. The club is being run much better than it was last season and before thanks to Les and Hoos helping guide the club in a positive direction and finally, we have an owner who is willing to put his money where his mouth is in the long run. Facts

6th in the league - Yes.
Come back from one of the league favs - Yes
Scored most goals in league - Yes
Conceded 2 goals a game - Yes. Should this not be a concern though?
Excellent signings and squad full of youth? - I'd say we've made 2 'excellent' signings, Luongo, Chery. But squad full of youth, YES.
Club being run better than last season? - Hard to say if this is a fact? But it looks better yes.
An owner willing to put his money where his mouth is in the long run? - Not sure this is a fact because we cant see the future? and it looks like he has stopped spending for now?

You've proved my point though Nasser, you've outlined the facts of this season, which means you are willing to paper over the cracks of where we are now.

In regards to the present, which your facts are based on then yes for now we look OK but i am not so easily able to just throw the past in the bin of why we are where we are now, because should never of got to this stage. It should never of got to an £8m FFP fine, back in the Champ, scrapping the barrel for players like Oscar Gobern and Leon Best. Under the TF reign by now we SHOULD of been established in the Prem.. Mistake mistake mistake by the owners has led to us being where we are now, scrapping the barrel (again) for positives, like being 6th in the Championship.

I don't get too excited about the present until after Xmas in a season.

[nasser95]

6th in the league - Yes.
Come back from one of the league favs - Yes
Scored most goals in league - Yes
Conceded 2 goals a game - Yes. Should this not be a concern though?
Excellent signings and squad full of youth? - I'd say we've made 2 'excellent' signings, Luongo, Chery. But squad full of youth, YES.
Club being run better than last season? - Hard to say if this is a fact? But it looks better yes.
An owner willing to put his money where his mouth is in the long run? - Not sure this is a fact because we cant see the future? and it looks like he has stopped spending for now?

You've proved my point though Nasser, you've outlined the facts of this season, which means you are willing to paper over the cracks of where we are now.

In regards to the present, which your facts are based on then yes for now we look OK but i am not so easily able to just throw the past in the bin of why we are where we are now.

I don't get too excited about the present until after Xmas in a season.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. You're too funny. You think this is papering over the cracks? A squad full of youth, but no we are just papering over the short term cracks. Getting rid of all the high earners in the space of two summers? No we are just papering over the cracks. We have made mistakes but the FACTS are there to see. This is no papering over the cracks job, this is a long term boost to the football club in the direction we want it to go.

As for only two excellent signings, I firmly have faith that Polter, JET, Gladwin, Hall and Prouhouly will come good in the long run for this club. We will have a team capable of getting promoted but also staying up because of the way we play. If we keep austin, we will do much better than anyone here thinks because our defence will click soon. Just need time to gel with their different styles.

[Rangers77]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. You're too funny. You think this is papering over the cracks? A squad full of youth, but no we are just papering over the short term cracks. Getting rid of all the high earners in the space of two summers? No we are just papering over the cracks. We have made mistakes but the FACTS are there to see. This is no papering over the cracks job, this is a long term boost to the football club in the direction we want it to go.

As for only two excellent signings, I firmly have faith that Polter, JET, Gladwin, Hall and Prouhouly will come good in the long run for this club. We will have a team capable of getting promoted but also staying up because of the way we play. If we keep austin, we will do much better than anyone here thinks because our defence will click soon. Just need time to gel with their different styles.

Hmmmm. A tad too early to tell, no?

[nasser95]

Hmmmm. A tad too early to tell, no?

The reason I say that is because I wouldn't imagine offensively that these players would need to gel much more. The issues we've had in the past when going up is a reliance on an individual to get us goals. I think this team has the sign that everyone will get goals.

[Is Dom Is Good]

err since when did 6 teams get relegated , you actually think we wern't lucky to get a draw from Cardiff you don't think the Wolves game could have gone either way you don't think we were hanging on at the death against Rotherham ?

Do you know how to read. Struggle to avoid relegation mate not get relegated.