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  • #16
    I love Stan and had a season ticket throughout his time at the R's, he was a true rangers GREAT, trust me. But he was nowhere near as good as Messi is, that is a whole other level.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lymehoop View Post
      Messi simply the best player ever in my opinion
      Yep . Doubt we will see another like Lionel . He's an absolute genius and he does it year in year out at the very top

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      • #18
        Originally posted by easthertsr View Post
        I love Stan and had a season ticket throughout his time at the R's, he was a true rangers GREAT, trust me. But he was nowhere near as good as Messi is, that is a whole other level.
        This, Stan had more silky skills but over all Messi is different gravy.
        Kept the faith!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Greg1882 View Post
          Yep . Doubt we will see another like Lionel . He's an absolute genius and he does it year in year out at the very top
          Except International level? For Messi to be regarded as the greatest, imo he needs to do it for Argentina (having said that I believe he has a 1 in 2 strike rate for them), and also leave his comfort zone at Barca and do it elsewhere. Currently C. Ronaldo has done it for the biggest club in Spain, and in England for our biggest club.

          Personal opinion, I rate the original Ronaldo, Maradona, and Ronaldinho ahead of messi even though they didn't score 40 goals a season like Messi and the current Ronaldo which I know sounds strange to say.
          @chrisrobson9

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          • #20
            Don't think we can compare Messi & Stan directly.
            2 completely different eras.
            Messi has had all the advantages that modern players have, Diets, boots, pitches

            Stan played on swamps (home games) had defenders that were allowed to take him out and not even get a foul for it.
            Boots were standard leather, the diets were steaks before a game, although Stan's were stakes down at Corals!!

            Now obviously Messi would be better today but the standard has got higher
            In the 70s it was more bog standard football, well in England, apart from Sexton's boys who played a continental
            style flowing football instead. There were other mavericks but Stan was the best imo

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            • #21
              Saw Stan play in almost every game when he was with us, same class skill wise, more entertaining than Messi, not as good with the telling burst though.

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              • #22
                I think some of us are missing the point here. Whether Stan was as good as Messi is impossible to prove and irrelevant today. He was simply the best we ever had. End of. A QPR legend and our greatest ever player. No doubt.

                Tomorrow we need to join and celebrate the great man.

                Stanley, Stanley, Stanley, Stanley. Bowles is the king of Loftus Road!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Robsondinho View Post
                  Except International level? For Messi to be regarded as the greatest, imo he needs to do it for Argentina (having said that I believe he has a 1 in 2 strike rate for them), and also leave his comfort zone at Barca and do it elsewhere. Currently C. Ronaldo has done it for the biggest club in Spain, and in England for our biggest club.

                  Personal opinion, I rate the original Ronaldo, Maradona, and Ronaldinho ahead of messi even though they didn't score 40 goals a season like Messi and the current Ronaldo which I know sounds strange to say.


                  Get what your saying about international level but he can't help the fact that Argentina arnt all that . It's a team game after all , if he'd been born in Brazil instead it wouldn't be in question . The thing I really admire about him is you barely see him in the papers being a flash #### or being a nob head like the modern day players . He just adores playing football and for me will go down in history as one of if not the best to ever play the beautiful game . He just wants to play and to win . The original Ronaldo was also an unreal player (that goal he scored for barca which had bobby robson bemused is one of the best I've ever seen ) but he's had his off field issues . As has Ronaldinho and obviously maradona. Not saying they arnt amazing players because they are but for the overall package messi wins it for me . All about opinions though mate and all players mentioned are or were totally world class
                  Last edited by Greg1882; 22-08-2015, 05:29 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KevlaR View Post
                    I think some of us are missing the point here. Whether Stan was as good as Messi is impossible to prove and irrelevant today. He was simply the best we ever had. End of. A QPR legend and our greatest ever player. No doubt.

                    Tomorrow we need to join and celebrate the great man.

                    Stanley, Stanley, Stanley, Stanley. Bowles is the king of Loftus Road!
                    100% this . Too young to have seen the man play but from what I've seen recorded he was a magician . Ive met him a couple of times and was always a true gent . The word "legend" gets banded about too much these days but not in this instance . Whatever happens he's one of us , one of our own and deserves all the support , love and respect we can give him . COYRS
                    Last edited by Greg1882; 22-08-2015, 05:28 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KevlaR View Post
                      I think some of us are missing the point here. Whether Stan was as good as Messi is impossible to prove and irrelevant today. He was simply the best we ever had. End of. A QPR legend and our greatest ever player. No doubt.

                      Tomorrow we need to join and celebrate the great man.

                      Stanley, Stanley, Stanley, Stanley. Bowles is the king of Loftus Road!
                      Absolutely......hope Stan gets the reception he deserves ! Sure he will hope whole ground applauds on 10 mins as per Stans family's request !

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                      • #26
                        I saw him make his debut against Nottingham Forest at Loftus Rd, then spent the next few years watching him destroy teams, and was so proud that we, little old QPR had the best player in England.

                        So many memories, will we ever see his like again?
                        I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                          ...according to Gerry Francis on this weeks's QPR Podcast. It sounded like a very bold statement to come out with but he insisted he was serious.

                          I attended every home game of the 75/76 season, and think I'd have to agree. Looking back now it's incredible to think we had such a world-class talent grace our club for all those years.

                          Listen here:



                          WELCOME STAN AT 2.45PM ON SATURDAY!

                          HOOPS: SPECIAL EDITION PROGRAMME FOR #STANBOWLESDAY

                          SHOW STAN BOWLES YOUR SUPPORT

                          From Norway with love!:

                          Last edited by Shania; 22-08-2015, 02:07 PM.
                          QPR
                          Best team in the world
                          Sort of

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Robsondinho View Post
                            Never saw Stan play, but my old man always bangs on about him. To say better than Messi is a big big statement. Did Stan do it on the world stage? European Cup before it was called the Champions League? No disrespect to him as I never saw him and I trust my old man, and your guys judgement on him, but Messi is regarded the best to ever play the game (not my opinion by the way as I think 2 or 3 were better than Messi).
                            He did score 11 goals in the R's campaign in the 76/77 Uefa Cup campaign. Now that a world stage!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Martinmalta View Post
                              He did score 11 goals in the R's campaign in the 76/77 Uefa Cup campaign. Now that a world stage!
                              Highest scorer in Europe at the time too.

                              The only reason he never get more England caps was because of Don Revie's over-disciplinarian management, which ultimately led to failure for him despite the wealth of great talent he had at his disposal, with Stan leading the pack. More unfortunate was that Gerry was England captain at the time whom he had a telepathic relationship with.

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                              • #30
                                He looked the best I've seen him since his playing days to be fair! That whistle was the nuts

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