Sandro HIMSELF remains in the dark

[QPR Rickson]

Self appointed made up stats goon.

Lol no 1 else takes him seriously . Proper krank

[Lunar Jetman]

To be fair, we can spend another 2 pages arguing over how much he's costing us but whether it's £13, £10 or £6 million with or without wages, bonuses etc, they're all eye watering figures.

I'd be embarrassed about paying someone £100 a week if I didn't have a work permit for them, let alone whatever Sandro is on....

[Del]

I recall references to £6m at the time and it seeiming a good price considering from Spurs and his quality when fit... i'm sure there was talk on here about it an that he must be crocked hence they were prepared to offload at that price..... Not sure if that was what the actual fee was in the end though.

[THE CAT]

What a joke the situation is. Assuming it will get sorted in the next couple of weeks (prob take longer), he will have missed a lot of pre season training and be unfit for the start of next.

Would he not be allowed to train with us either then? Maybe not as it is part of his job.

You'd hope that he did have a fitness plan or something given by the club to ensure that he was at least in shape. However by the sounds of that tweet that might be a bit far-fetched.

Hold on a sec I thought players were banned from Twitter by Les and co. That didn't last very long did it???

[Lunar Jetman]

Interesting article here on the subject which suggests if he fails to get the relevant visa his contract could become null and void....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/16/qpr-banned-non-eu-sandro-vias-work-permit-brazilian

QPR banned from signing non-EU players until Sandro case resolved

• Brazilian’s career left in limbo after club’s administrative blunder
• Sandro has two years to run on £50,000-a-week deal

Sandro’s career has been left in limbo amid a row over his work permit after an embarrassing administrative blunder by Queens Park Rangers. The club are banned from signing any non-EU players until the case is concluded.

The Brazilian midfielder has been suspended by the Home Office pending the outcome of an inquiry that could take weeks. Sandro and QPR must wait to see whether he is given permission to carry on at Loftus Road and if not, whether his contract will become null and void.

Any cancellation may suit QPR given they are trying to offload Sandro following their relegation from the Premier League. He has two years to run on a £50,000-a-week deal and after a difficult season following a £6m transfer from Tottenham Hotspur on deadline day in September of last year, he may be difficult to shift. On the other hand, QPR might take the glass half-full view and back themselves to get a fee for the 26-year-old.

Sandro would argue he signed the contract in good faith and the lack of a permit ought to change nothing. He would still see the deal as binding and if QPR could not play him or sell him, they may have to loan him to a club outside the European Union.

The error came to light towards the end of last season, when it was discovered there was a problem with Sandro’s UK residency visa which, in turn, sparked the issue with his EU work permit. He had held the correct documentation during his four seasons at Tottenham and when he moved to QPR the club successfully applied for a new work permit. Yet they did not update his visa, which has led to the controversy. The permit does not apply without a valid visa.

It is technically the player’s responsibility to sort out the paperwork but it is invariably the clubs who apply for and file it. Sandro did qualify and it appears to have been nothing more than an oversight on QPR’s part although the mistake has laid them open to accusations of amateurism.

The Home Office contacted QPR on 7 May, before the club went to Manchester City for the third last game of the season, to raise a problem with the expiry date on Sandro’s visa. “While this is ongoing the club have been advised not to select Sandro for match involvement,” QPR said at the time. He did not feature against City, or in either of their final matches – against Newcastle United or Leicester City.

The Home Office has completed a compliance check and it said it has “suspended QPR’s sponsor licence [for Sandro],” together with imposing the ban on the club adding any non-EU players until the matter is resolved.

It has given QPR 20 working days – the first of which was last Thursday – to make written submissions in response to the suspension and the Home Office would then have a further 20 working days to decide about the permit. Sandro is back in Brazil and QPR say they are “in dialogue with the Home Office in a bid to resolve the matter”.

It remains to be seen whether the Home Office takes the hard line stance and denies Sandro the permit, which would open up the issues relating to his contract. But it is important to note that in football regulatory terms, QPR did not break any rules on the transfer.

Sandro was properly registered with the Premier League and so there is no case for QPR being retrospectively punished for fielding an ineligible player. Sandro made 17 league appearances last season, scoring one goal.

[brightonr]

Would he not be allowed to train with us either then? Maybe not as it is part of his job.

You'd hope that he did have a fitness plan or something given by the club to ensure that he was at least in shape. However by the sounds of that tweet that might be a bit far-fetched.

Hold on a sec I thought players were banned from Twitter by Les and co. That didn't last very long did it???

He's not collected his new rule book yet though.

[bakes8]

Yes, I know the Daily Mail is hardly gospel, but they reported the fee at "just" £10m.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2740029/Sandro-signs-QPR-10million-Tottenham-Harry-Redknapp-signs-Brazilian-second-time.html

I have to admit I always thought it was £10m, def more than £6m.

Tbh unsure of the reliability of this source, but reckons he is on £57k a week (I have previously posted about how much I know for a fact he was paid into his account):

http://sportspayroll.com/sandro-salary-queens-park-rangers/

Would mean transfer fee plus 1 years salary = £13m

Stat nerd.

[MattyRangers]

Stat nerd.

[Jeems]

Would he not be allowed to train with us either then? Maybe not as it is part of his job.

You'd hope that he did have a fitness plan or something given by the club to ensure that he was at least in shape. However by the sounds of that tweet that might be a bit far-fetched.

Hold on a sec I thought players were banned from Twitter by Les and co. That didn't last very long did it???

Well he's not even in the country and any training he does on his own but wont be at the same level.

Here was was earlier this week...training his core no doubt...! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ext...-one-side.html

[nasser95]

Any links to anywhere saying £6-8m? I can't ever recall that personally.

It was something I heard at the ground, was doing some work there for EA getting data sorted out and making sure everyone who came in was immediately moved into the database.

[nasser95]

Interesting article here on the subject which suggests if he fails to get the relevant visa his contract could become null and void....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/16/qpr-banned-non-eu-sandro-vias-work-permit-brazilian

QPR banned from signing non-EU players until Sandro case resolved

• Brazilian’s career left in limbo after club’s administrative blunder
• Sandro has two years to run on £50,000-a-week deal

Sandro’s career has been left in limbo amid a row over his work permit after an embarrassing administrative blunder by Queens Park Rangers. The club are banned from signing any non-EU players until the case is concluded.

The Brazilian midfielder has been suspended by the Home Office pending the outcome of an inquiry that could take weeks. Sandro and QPR must wait to see whether he is given permission to carry on at Loftus Road and if not, whether his contract will become null and void.

Any cancellation may suit QPR given they are trying to offload Sandro following their relegation from the Premier League. He has two years to run on a £50,000-a-week deal and after a difficult season following a £6m transfer from Tottenham Hotspur on deadline day in September of last year, he may be difficult to shift. On the other hand, QPR might take the glass half-full view and back themselves to get a fee for the 26-year-old.

Sandro would argue he signed the contract in good faith and the lack of a permit ought to change nothing. He would still see the deal as binding and if QPR could not play him or sell him, they may have to loan him to a club outside the European Union.

The error came to light towards the end of last season, when it was discovered there was a problem with Sandro’s UK residency visa which, in turn, sparked the issue with his EU work permit. He had held the correct documentation during his four seasons at Tottenham and when he moved to QPR the club successfully applied for a new work permit. Yet they did not update his visa, which has led to the controversy. The permit does not apply without a valid visa.

It is technically the player’s responsibility to sort out the paperwork but it is invariably the clubs who apply for and file it. Sandro did qualify and it appears to have been nothing more than an oversight on QPR’s part although the mistake has laid them open to accusations of amateurism.

The Home Office contacted QPR on 7 May, before the club went to Manchester City for the third last game of the season, to raise a problem with the expiry date on Sandro’s visa. “While this is ongoing the club have been advised not to select Sandro for match involvement,” QPR said at the time. He did not feature against City, or in either of their final matches – against Newcastle United or Leicester City.

The Home Office has completed a compliance check and it said it has “suspended QPR’s sponsor licence [for Sandro],” together with imposing the ban on the club adding any non-EU players until the matter is resolved.

It has given QPR 20 working days – the first of which was last Thursday – to make written submissions in response to the suspension and the Home Office would then have a further 20 working days to decide about the permit. Sandro is back in Brazil and QPR say they are “in dialogue with the Home Office in a bid to resolve the matter”.

It remains to be seen whether the Home Office takes the hard line stance and denies Sandro the permit, which would open up the issues relating to his contract. But it is important to note that in football regulatory terms, QPR did not break any rules on the transfer.

Sandro was properly registered with the Premier League and so there is no case for QPR being retrospectively punished for fielding an ineligible player. Sandro made 17 league appearances last season, scoring one goal.

Cheers for this, and I do agree with the potential of taking a glass half view on it as potentially we could sell him off back to brazil or even to Portugal where work permits aren't exactly an Issue. Would rather keep him if we can as I believe he is a quality player when fit but if we have to sell him, take the moneyball approach on it and say that any profit is good profit.

[Rangers77]

Self appointed made up stats goon.

This times a million. Worst poster on here. He's so up his own fundament it's unbelievable. Reminds me of those kids at school who always thought their team's players were automatically better than anyone else's.

[Rangers77]

Stat nerd.

Nice one, Matty.

[Brian Wilson]

Nasser - Rickson Slug it Out Thread? keep up mods ffs!

[nasser95]

This times a million. Worst poster on here. He's so up his own fundament it's unbelievable. Reminds me of those kids at school who always thought their team's players were automatically better than anyone else's.

Its funny because its all about perspectives to be honest. I think some will see my positive outlook as being 'up my own ar5e' but it isn't the intent. I personally think that if I support a club, I have no reason to complain much about it because it is my choice as a fan to support them so I don't see a reason as to why people complain as much as they do (certainly on here).
To me, the negative lot; yourself included 77; are a collection of what I see as the WATRBs equivalent of the Bad Eggs from recent seasons. But opinions of each other don't really matter at the end of the day, I can't make you stop posting and you can't make me.