Adel rips into Redknapp

[stanistheman]

Stopped reading when he started praising MH. The bloke lost 13 games in a row and played a major role in signing many of the "bad eggs"

The remaining "bad eggs" - Adel included, despite what he is saying now - ironically have all left the club this summer. Time to move on chaps and back the new regime.

MH never lost 13 games in a row. They went the 1st 12 without a win. Yes he signed overpaid mercenary players, but he has proven himself again at Stoke.
taarabt is spot on about what went on and has even admitted he isnt perfect. What he said about training is also true. qPR were so unfit last season its a joke. They clrarly were not training properly or enough.
I think ramsey is a shocking choice for a manager and we will all see that in the coming months. He had enough games to turn things around but didnt even get close to doing it. His handling of players like Vargas Isla and even Taarabt was so poor that I believe it cost QPR a few games that could have been won.

[maidstone_hoop]

Adel is a mug but his assessment is pretty spot on imo. Harry lost interest and we all know it. The way that bloke managed the club in the end was a disgrace. Half hearted with no passion what so ever and it filtered through the club.
Having someone who cares and is passionate is infectious and goes a long way and Harry had the reverse effect. He screwed the club and left us in a right mess. Glad we going to back to basics and getting a bit of our identity back. Ramsey deserves his crack and its up to him to take it but one thing I would say is atleast we know we got someone in charge now who cares,marks his nuts off and wants to prove something.

[peterlund.dk]

All of this just proves to me, that QPR has a brighter future now that both are gone. Adel brings up some HR points that most of us were already aware of - however his ego fails to realize that he was in fact one of the poor attitude players on too much money himself.

The recent back-room and squad changes will result in a different QPR next season, and I am cautiously confident that it will be a QPR where all players and fans can and will wear the badge with pride again.

After reading this latest outburst:
- I still don't like HR
- I don't like AT (but I used to)
- I still don't like MH

First forum post on an AT thread… bold strategy right there.

Havarti.

[West Acton]

All of this just proves to me, that QPR has a brighter future now that both are gone. Adel brings up some HR points that most of us were already aware of - however his ego fails to realize that he was in fact one of the poor attitude players on too much money himself.

The recent back-room and squad changes will result in a different QPR next season, and I am cautiously confident that it will be a QPR where all players and fans can and will wear the badge with pride again.

After reading this latest outburst:
- I still don't like HR
- I don't like AT (but I used to)
- I still don't like MH

First forum post on an AT thread… bold strategy right there.

Havarti.

Welcome good opening post!!!!!

[maidstone_hoop]

Welcome good opening post!!!!!

[Jeems]

MH never lost 13 games in a row. They went the 1st 12 without a win. Yes he signed overpaid mercenary players, but he has proven himself again at Stoke.
taarabt is spot on about what went on and has even admitted he isnt perfect. What he said about training is also true. qPR were so unfit last season its a joke. They clrarly were not training properly or enough.
I think ramsey is a shocking choice for a manager and we will all see that in the coming months. He had enough games to turn things around but didnt even get close to doing it. His handling of players like Vargas Isla and even Taarabt was so poor that I believe it cost QPR a few games that could have been won.

How could Adel say MH's coaching was better, he coached us to 12 ####ing defeats in a row!!!

With Stoke, he moved to a very stable club with a core of long serving players. Yes he's learned from "his" mistakes, the mistakes that are still f*cking us over!

HR was no saint but lets put down the rose tinted stuff because MH was a disaster and Adel barring 1 season and a few games here and there, was equally as bad.

[maidstone_hoop]

It's weird how Hughes got it so wrong with us but has managed to be fairly successful elsewhere.

Wonder long term if he could of of been a success. Biggest mistake for me was getting rid of warnock.

[maverick69]

It's weird how Hughes got it so wrong with us but has managed to be fairly successful elsewhere.

Wonder long term if he could of of been a success. Biggest mistake for me was getting rid of warnock.

Because elsewhere he wasn't given an open checkbook IMHO.

It was like giving a monkey a machine gun.

[maidstone_hoop]

Because elsewhere he wasn't given an open checkbook IMHO.

It was like giving a monkey a machine gun.

No good point mate and tbf when joining Stoke they were a pretty established well drilled premiership outfit. Makes it a lot easier to be successful.

[MattyRangers]

It's weird how Hughes got it so wrong with us but has managed to be fairly successful elsewhere.

Wonder long term if he could of of been a success. Biggest mistake for me was getting rid of warnock.

Love Warnock for what he done with us but disagree, I think he is remembered with rose tinted glasses (somewould say rightly so given our promotion season). But let's remember, Warnock signed Barton, SWP, Anton, Luke Young, Traore & Bothroyd. I know we won a couple of away games under Warnock (impressive wins tbf at Everton & Wolves), but I honestly don't think we would have gone anywhere but down under him. The players did not respect him (confirmed with SWP's actions outlined in NW's book). Now I know that's more down to player's attitudes than maybe Warnock's ability, but the hard truth is in the PL withhighly paid players, you are always dealing with these attitudes and egos and I really don't think such players respected Warnock enough for it to work.

As for Hughes, he was a very good manager before us, and has gone onto prove he is again after us. I think the fact our naive owners just gave him an open cheque book, combined with (I don't know this for a fact, but I assume it is the case) them getting in his ear about recruiting some "high profile" players (ie Park) just led to a disaster.

[Hove Ranger]

Love Warnock for what he done with us but disagree, I think he is remembered with rose tinted glasses (somewould say rightly so given our promotion season). But let's remember, Warnock signed Barton, SWP, Anton, Luke Young, Traore & Bothroyd.

As for Hughes, he was a very good manager before us, and has gone onto prove he is again after us. I think the fact our naive owners just gave him an open cheque book, combined with (I don't know this for a fact, but I assume it is the case) them getting in his ear about recruiting some "high profile" players (ie Park) just led to a disaster.

Thats how I see it with MH Matty. And under him was probably our best period in the premiership. (the year we stayed up)

[maidstone_hoop]

Love Warnock for what he done with us but disagree, I think he is remembered with rose tinted glasses (somewould say rightly so given our promotion season). But let's remember, Warnock signed Barton, SWP, Anton, Luke Young, Traore & Bothroyd. I know we won a couple of away games under Warnock (impressive wins tbf at Everton & Wolves), but I honestly don't think we would have gone anywhere but down under him. The players did not respect him (confirmed with SWP's actions outlined in NW's book). Now I know that's more down to player's attitudes than maybe Warnock's ability, but the hard truth is in the PL withhighly paid players, you are always dealing with these attitudes and egos and I really don't think such players respected Warnock enough for it to work.

As for Hughes, he was a very good manager before us, and has gone onto prove he is again after us. I think the fact our naive owners just gave him an open cheque book, combined with (I don't know this for a fact, but I assume it is the case) them getting in his ear about recruiting some "high profile" players (ie Park) just led to a disaster.

Fair points Matty and there is definitely some nostalgia going on when remembering warnock. Your completely right about some of his purchases but if I remember properly his hands were massively tied during that summer and the above buys were imp massive panic buys. Ie the length of contracts offered were just shocking.

Think the sentiment extends to warnock because he was genuine, honest and passionate about the club, everything Harry wasn't.

[klonk]

yay! uncle ony manages to get in on the action too....

QPR chairman has revealed the real reason why Harry Redknapp resigned

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/qpr-chairman-revealed-real-reason-9545499#ICID=sharebar_twitter

there are some days when you really wonder whether fernandes wants us to move forward or whether he just wants to pointlessly wallow in the past. waiting for red chap's response next...

[Stanley]

Fair points Matty and there is definitely some nostalgia going on when remembering warnock. Your completely right about some of his purchases but if I remember properly his hands were massively tied during that summer and the above buys were imp massive panic buys. Ie the length of contracts offered were just shocking.

Correct. NW was hamstrung for the entire summer in the transfer market because the club was for sale and no funds became available to him until the 11th hour with the eventual TF takeoever. Therefore unfair to blame him for not being able to get his first choice targets, which he eventually lost out on because we acted far too late. Listen to him on the live Podcast where he explains this in detail. Neither was he responsible for length of contracts offered to players. That was down to the naive and out of their depth Beard and board members.

[stanistheman]

Correct. NW was hamstrung for the entire summer in the transfer market because the club was for sale and no funds became available to him until the 11th hour with the eventual TF takeoever. Therefore unfair to blame him for not being able to get his first choice targets, which he eventually lost out on because we acted far too late. Listen to him on the live Podcast where he explains this in detail. Neither was he responsible for length of contracts offered to players. That was down to the naive and out of their depth Beard and board members.

I agree tango and cash Screwed it up for Warnock anf those ovrrpriced overpaid signings were panic buys.