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  • #31
    Let them have him atleast he can keep remy company on the bench, for charlie that would not be a good move
    You Rsssssss

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    • #32
      I'm affraid he has to be sold to help balance the books, also I feel he now wants to leave, would love him to say he's staying, which would probably get us back up, with a striker of his class, I just hope we get a good price for him £15M and is probably worth much more, but struggle to get that when the vultures are circling, keep him let him run his contract down and see if we can get back up?

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      • #33
        Kev he missed a pen unsure why you think that means he don't care anymore. He got booked for dissent when getting frustrated not sure if he never cared that would have happened

        He missed a pen lets not hang him out to dry

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        • #34
          That pen could of saved our premiership status mate, probably the biggest pen in his life and he bottled it. Pi ssed off westy, really #### ed off.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
            That pen could of saved our premiership status mate, probably the biggest pen in his life and he bottled it. Pi ssed off westy, really #### ed off.
            I agree with you buddy im as annoyed as you and it is going to have a bigger impact on us as a club then it will on Austins career but the lad cares he just as you said lost his bottle. Never seen him go down the middle before usually he picks a corner going down the middle was playing it safe and he lost

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            • #36
              Either do two things
              1. Like you said play hard ball try and get the highest amount we can for him
              2. If no-one is willing to match our asking price keep him for another season even if it means getting little or nothing for him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                That pen could of saved our premiership status mate, probably the biggest pen in his life and he bottled it. Pi ssed off westy, really #### ed off.
                Zamora should have taken that penalty.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Shania View Post
                  Zamora should have taken that penalty.
                  Why??

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                    That pen could of saved our premiership status mate, probably the biggest pen in his life and he bottled it. Pi ssed off westy, really #### ed off.
                    Not sure if you saw the keeper giving him words before it. Remember at the world cup tim krul's antics that won holland their match. Poor sportsmanship but bear in mind that the bloke has saved his last 3 penalties before this one.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                      Why??
                      Exactly. It is an absolute joke that anyone but charlie should have taken that penalty. People here can really be so schizophrenic about us. Jheez
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                        Exactly. It is an absolute joke that anyone but charlie should have taken that penalty. People here can really be so schizophrenic about us. Jheez
                        I'm not saying he shouldn't have taken the pen , I'm not holding the poor effort of it against him but what I do think is he should look at the shift B Z put in then look at his overall contribution and hand back last weeks wages ,

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Harryboy View Post
                          It's simple just sell him and get someone who has a better allround game than charlie, everyone around me yesterday was moaning about him, I know he as saved us with is goals. But he is clueless much off the game
                          This. Absolutely bang on the money. Charlie couldn't hold up a bank with a tank.

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                          • #43
                            Things rarely ever work. If he stays we will probably not go up or he may get injured and Rangers end up wearing more money up the wall. It would be best to sell him if he does not sign a contract. I beleive we will not get £10 million for him any way unless there are add ons. He has scored some goals but his general play is average.

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                            • #44
                              Anything between 12-15 mill we have done well with 12 months left on his contract. All this hard ball rubbish and lose him for nothing next year would just be stupid. If we cam get 12 mill and we can bring in 2 decent championship strikers with that money then il be happy.
                              Be nice to see it spent on a fast direct striker. Someone like gayle or one of the wolves striker for example.

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                              • #45
                                Charlie's Contract Negotiations

                                Here's what I would do with Charlie:

                                Tell his agent that we are not prepared to sell him for less than our valuation, and we see him as comparable to Wilfred Bony in terms of value so the price is £25m rising to £28m with add ons:
                                The Ivory Coast international will complete his medical while on Africa Cup of Nations duty and link up with City when he returns in January


                                At the same time, we offer Charlie an improved contract that actually pays him slightly more than he is likely to get from any of the teams that are currently interested. I'm just going to make a wild guess here and say we offer him £60k per week, which I believe would be £25k per week more than he is currently making. We also include a release clause for £12m that will kick in next summer if we are NOT promoted next season (and will expire two weeks BEFORE the end of the transfer window!). It will be in both parties' best interests to keep this release clause secret.

                                What this would mean to Charlie:

                                If he doesn't sign, he is almost certainly playing Championship football next season, which I'm sure he does not want to do, since nobody is likely to pay our valuation while his contract has only one year remaining. He will also receive only his current wage for next season, when he could be making a lot more. The benefit is that he will be guaranteed Premier League football the season after next as he will be a free agent.

                                If he does sign, his chances of playing Premier League football next season are increased, because with him now on a multi-year contract, teams will be more likely to pay our valuation (assuming they don't know about the release clause). If nobody bites then he will still have to play Championship football next season but he is still guaranteed Premier League football the season after because of the generous release clause. He will also be paid a lot more next season, whatever happens.

                                It seems to me that it would be in his best interests to sign.

                                What this would mean to QPR:

                                If he doesn't sign, we have him for a season in the Championship which greatly increases our chances of going up (if promotion is worth £40m and having Charlie in the team increases our chances of promotion by 25%, then having him in the team is worth £40m x 25% = £10m), but we lose him for nothing in the summer if we are not promoted. If we are promoted, we have as much chance as anybody to sign him as a free agent.

                                If he does sign, we get full value for him if he goes this summer, which is much better than the knock down deal we would get otherwise. If he stays for another season, we at least get £12m for him next summer, which is much more than the nothing we would get otherwise. We also have him in the team for another year which increases our chances of promotion, but we do have to pay him more (say £25k per week more, which is £1.25m over the year).

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                                We have paid far too much in wages to too many wasters but Charlie have proven that he is worth a big salary. He is our superstar and should be paid accordingly.

                                Unfortunately, in order to make this work our negotiating team would need to demonstrate something that they have not displayed even a hint of to date, and that is moxy. We need to be prepared to take the risk of losing him for nothing next summer. Otherwise we might just as well bend over and take it up the hoop as usual.
                                'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

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