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NICK HARRIS: So who, objectively, are the biggest clubs in England? That’s the question Sportsmail answers today. We’ve used no opinion, just hard evidence to determine the answers.
Yeah, about right, "IF" we had won that title in 76, FA cup in 82 and league cup in 85 we would be around Derby.
If we had won the league in 76 I don't think Liverpool would of gone on to be such a dominant force through to the 80's.
"The kids missed everything from Queens Park Rangers to Conkers".
London Pride has been handed down to us.
London Pride is a flower that's free.
London Pride means our own dear town to us,
And our pride it for ever will be.
I think QPR also lost a lot of ground after relegation in 96. had they done things better after selling Ferdinand, they could have stayed up and gone on to continue to improve on and off the pitch. There would probably be a new bigger ground with improved gates to help them climb even higher up the rankings.
Those 'lost'15 years have done a lot of damage to QPR which is why the likes of Charlton, Palace, Fulham, Sheff Utd, Birmingham & Burnley are above them.
This is another reason why QPR must stay up this season, otherwise they could spend another long spell out of the top flight and lose even more ground. In 10 years time they could be down to 40th place.
I think 31st is a little generous. I'd say @35th would be more accurate. There are clubs above us in that list-Fulham for starters-that should be below us and clubs below us in that list that are much bigger than us.
Average league finish
The average league finish position for each of the clubs since 1888-89.
Who the #### cares where a team finish in the 19th century?
Player quality
We counted the number of players from each club who have played for England, all-time, ranking the clubs by total. This reflects historic ‘bigness’. We then ranked the clubs by the number of players provided to the 2014 World Cup — a measure of modern ‘bigness’. The overall ranking is an aggregate of these two.
England are #### anyway, and lots of bad players made the WC while lots of good ones missed out.
Whole article is nonsense.
At the moment Man Utd & Chelsea are the big English clubs. Arsenal sort of are, but they never do anything that matters in Europe. City haven't proven themselves. Liverpool and Spurs aren't top tier.
Yes, it is nonsense but interesting nonsense nonetheless.
Happy to see we did well in Global Fan Support.
Lots of flaws in the way they decided "bigness" but in the end the list seems reasonable. Man U. definitely #1 for me but I'd put Liverpool #2.
'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.
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