we've got the players.... But

[Nick]

My honest opinion chaps from my question is we'd be around where Everton/Palace are.... Our biggest down fall this season is our shocking away results... had we been set up correctly and been more ruthless we'd have a few away wins to our name. That on top of our original home results and we'd be pretty much safe by now imho!

[West Acton]

Also, mentioned to the bloke next to me .

Good God someone has to sit next to you and put up with your verbal Diarrhea on a match day

I assume that the club reimburse them as an apology

[West Acton]

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[Hove Ranger]

If these players were managed correctly, coached correctly from our very 1st game of the season, right up until now (meaning ALL season- no players being played out of position, correct substitutes being made, best formation being played from start to finish of each game, strongest team being picked week in week out) do you think we would be where we are now??

Dont think we would be much higher IMO. We are at least 2 strikers, 2 wingers, a lb and rb short.

[Nick]

Dont think we would be much higher IMO. We are at least 2 strikers, 2 wingers, a lb and rb short.

I think our 1 main weakness is the left side. Thats the side that so blatantly needed addressing but never did!!!... other than that think we wouldve been fine in all honesty.

Philips/Vargas - on the right

Zamora/Austin/Vargas/Adel/Grego-Cox -strikers

Henry/Barton/Sandro/Fer - in the middle

Adel/Niko - on the left

[Hove Ranger]

I think our 1 main weakness is the left side. Thats the side that so blatantly needed addressing but never did!!!... other than that think we wouldve been fine in all honesty.

Philips/Vargas - on the right

Zamora/Austin/Vargas/Adel/Grego-Cox -strikers

Henry/Barton/Sandro/Fer - in the middle

Adel/Niko - on the left

Dont think that striker list is good enough. Most teams have at least 3 or 4 proper strikers; Zamora is past it, adel isnt a striker, grego cox shouldnt be considered and I havent a clue where vargas is supposed to play, which is confirmed by the fact you named him as a striker and a winger. That just leaves Charlie and that is our major problem IMO. If we had a couple of strikers to play with Charlie, 1 to play the target man role, hold it up and allow our team to get further up the pitch instead of constantly having to deal with counter attacks because we knock it up there and the ball just comes straight back. The other striker would ideally be pacey, making runs in behind to stretch the defence. If we could constantly mix up the way we play with these combinations of strikers I think it would give us a real attacking threat and help the defence out by giving them a breather once in a while.

Those options for the left side are shocking. Feel sorry for the LB with either those in front of me. The options for the middle are physically strong and solid but Sandro is injured more often than not and there is a lack of good ball players in that list.

[nasser95]

I seem to have noticed you say that to someone else today too. You obviously dont read over what you write. I wasnt aware of the subjectivity of your points, in that they are always in relation to our standard. I only take things as they are written, if you choose to over dramatise or exaggerate things then you shouldn't be surprised when people question you.

Well, now you know that everything is in relation to our standards, the fact that I have had to say it about 10 times so far this season is rather annoying but if it eventually becomes clear that I'm always talking on a relative scale, then I'd hope people understand better what my points are.

[West Acton]

Well, now you know that everything is in relation to our standards, the fact that I have had to say it about 10 times so far this season is rather annoying but if it eventually becomes clear that I'm always talking on a relative scale, then I'd hope people understand better what my points are.

Forgive us oh mighty and knowledgeable one; we are not worthy to communicate with you, your wisdom knows no bounds let us all bow before Lord Nasser QPRs most intelligent fan

[Hove Ranger]

Well, now you know that everything is in relation to our standards, the fact that I have had to say it about 10 times so far this season is rather annoying but if it eventually becomes clear that I'm always talking on a relative scale, then I'd hope people understand better what my points are.

Maybe you should lower your opinion of yourself and realise that people havent got the time to make a note of the context or subjectivity of your points. Maybe you should write it in your profile so that every time you post it, it states it. You seem to be blaming everyone for misinterpreting what you are writing instead of admitting that you like to exaggerate from time to time

[nasser95]

Maybe you should lower your opinion of yourself and realise that people havent got the time to make a note of the context or subjectivity of your points. Maybe you should write it in your profile so that every time you post it, it states it. You seem to be blaming everyone for misinterpreting what you are writing instead of admitting that you like to exaggerate from time to time

Where did I admit that I like to exaggerate? All I said was that everything is done relative to the club itself. It surprises me that people don't do that in general. Didn't mean to sound condescending or something along that line, if I did, I apologize but it isn't really right to suggest that I'm blaming everyone else, when I have actually said it to you in particular too. But no worries.

[Hove Ranger]

Where did I admit that I like to exaggerate? All I said was that everything is done relative to the club itself. It surprises me that people don't do that in general. Didn't mean to sound condescending or something along that line, if I did, I apologize but it isn't really right to suggest that I'm blaming everyone else, when I have actually said it to you in particular too. But no worries.

"Well, now you know that everything is in relation to our standards, the fact that I have had to say it about 10 times so far this season is rather annoying but if it eventually becomes clear that I'm always talking on a relative scale, then I'd hope people understand better what my points are."

If this post was directed to me then surely you would have said you instead of people?

[Nick]

Dont think that striker list is good enough. Most teams have at least 3 or 4 proper strikers; Zamora is past it, adel isnt a striker, grego cox shouldnt be considered and I havent a clue where vargas is supposed to play, which is confirmed by the fact you named him as a striker and a winger. That just leaves Charlie and that is our major problem IMO. If we had a couple of strikers to play with Charlie, 1 to play the target man role, hold it up and allow our team to get further up the pitch instead of constantly having to deal with counter attacks because we knock it up there and the ball just comes straight back. The other striker would ideally be pacey, making runs in behind to stretch the defence. If we could constantly mix up the way we play with these combinations of strikers I think it would give us a real attacking threat and help the defence out by giving them a breather once in a while.

Those options for the left side are shocking. Feel sorry for the LB with either those in front of me. The options for the middle are physically strong and solid but Sandro is injured more often than not and there is a lack of good ball players in that list.

It all depends on the formation we play and playing to our strengths. Now looking at our side for me our best attacking/creative line up would be-
Green
Isla... Caulker... Ned... Yun
Barton... Sandro/Henry
Philips... Fer ... Vargas
Austin
IMHO this team would cause 'a lot' of problems for most Prem sides.

If we need to go slightly more defensive in a 4.4.2 then Philps on the right and Adel/Niko on the left (like I said before our biggest weakness was/is the left side) and put Austin and Vargas up front. Because of our lack of options I reckon if we'd stuck to 2 basic formations throughout the season, had a bit of consistency, we'd be a much more settled as a side. I honestly think we've had/got the players to stay up. All about playing them correctly imho.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Pick the team after every defeat and say 'this team would win matches' cos it makes no difference whatsoever, we will lose again and again and again and again. If it makes anyone feel better add pele, maradonna, gazza, messi and Ronaldo to your fantasy dream team to keep us up. Don't let anybody tell you to stop dreaming and fantasizing if that floats your boat

[nasser95]

"Well, now you know that everything is in relation to our standards, the fact that I have had to say it about 10 times so far this season is rather annoying but if it eventually becomes clear that I'm always talking on a relative scale, then I'd hope people understand better what my points are."

If this post was directed to me then surely you would have said you instead of people?

I said there that if changing something will fix people's perceptions of my unintended hyperbole of my descriptions, then I'd hope people - not just you but I'm saying in general - will sort of see the point I am bringing across. It wasn't in any way intended to sound directed or suggestive so apologies if it did mate.

[Hove Ranger]

I said there that if changing something will fix people's perceptions of my unintended hyperbole of my descriptions, then I'd hope people - not just you but I'm saying in general - will sort of see the point I am bringing across. It wasn't in any way intended to sound directed or suggestive so apologies if it did mate.

No need to apologise Nas. You haven't offended me