we've got the players.... But

[SammyKojoe]

He has pace, strength and skill. Look at his return as an example, he must have nutmegged about 5 players since coming back. He needs to be told when to cross but the quality is almost always there on the crosses.

One of our main problems is a lack of pace in the side despite playing with 2 wingers. Phillips is one of those and is part of the problem. He often has the chance to break at pace but is too slow or turns back.

Not sure 5 nutmegs would deem you good enough to easily get into Premiership sides. You know how silly that sounds i take it? Adel nutmegs people for fun by the way but does that make him easily good enough to get into Premiership sides? Of course not.

As i say - the odd good cross is all he offers and nothing else. Nowhere near enough at the top level.

[nasser95]

Isla wouldnt start for a top six prem side on the form he has shown for us imo. Caulker i would willingly swap for Lescott, Dawson or Dann in a heartbeat if those teams were dopey enough to do the deal but i very much doubt they would be that stupid.

I said he wouldn't start for a top 6 side but any other team he would. Making that swap deal would be ludicrous and a scary decision making process. Caulker is still, despite his many limitations mentally a better defender than them.

[Hove Ranger]

One of our main problems is a lack of pace in the side despite playing with 2 wingers. Phillips is one of those and is part of the problem. He often has the chance to break at pace but is too slow or turns back.

Not sure 5 nutmegs would deem you good enough to easily get into Premiership sides. You know how silly that sounds i take it? Adel nutmegs people for fun by the way but does that make him easily good enough to get into Premiership sides? Of course not.

As i say - the odd good cross is all he offers and nothing else. Nowhere near enough at the top level.

I was chatting about this yesterday at the game. He seems to be heralded as a pacey winger but I can't remember the last time I've seen him in full flight, bombing past the full back

[nasser95]

One of our main problems is a lack of pace in the side despite playing with 2 wingers. Phillips is one of those and is part of the problem. He often has the chance to break at pace but is too slow or turns back.

Not sure 5 nutmegs would deem you good enough to easily get into Premiership sides. You know how silly that sounds i take it? Adel nutmegs people for fun by the way but does that make him easily good enough to get into Premiership sides? Of course not.

As i say - the odd good cross is all he offers and nothing else. Nowhere near enough at the top level.

With regards to the nutmegs, I was making the point that he is skillful and confident on his game. He is very fast but lacks the correct decision making, which can be coached. He is physically a beast and is very difficult to take the ball off. His crossing is scarily consistent and if we had smarter players in the box (other than Austin) we would be seeing plenty more goals from his crosses.

[vblockranger]

I said he wouldn't start for a top 6 side but any other team he would. Making that swap deal would be ludicrous and a scary decision making process. Caulker is still, despite his many limitations mentally a better defender than them.

In his head he might be but on the pitch he is a liability and no better than those you have mentioned.

[Hove Ranger]

I said he wouldn't start for a top 6 side but any other team he would. Making that swap deal would be ludicrous and a scary decision making process. Caulker is still, despite his many limitations mentally a better defender than them.

Tbh IMO Caulker's main weakness is the mental side of his game. He has decent pace, height and size. He just seems to have lapses in concentration where he finds himself strolling over the halfway line in open play and getting caught out or losing track of the man he's marking allowing the other team to score.

[vblockranger]

With regards to the nutmegs, I was making the point that he is skillful and confident on his game. He is very fast but lacks the correct decision making, which can be coached. He is physically a beast and is very difficult to take the ball off. His crossing is scarily consistent and if we had smarter players in the box (other than Austin) we would be seeing plenty more goals from his crosses.

I dont know where you get half this stuff from i really dont...skillful,confident,physically a beast,consistent with crossing.....he should be playing for a top side if he was. You are watching the games with hoop tinted glasses mate.

[West London is Rss]

Caulker's been sh1te.

[Hove Ranger]

With regards to the nutmegs, I was making the point that he is skillful and confident on his game. He is very fast but lacks the correct decision making, which can be coached. He is physically a beast and is very difficult to take the ball off. His crossing is scarily consistent and if we had smarter players in the box (other than Austin) we would be seeing plenty more goals from his crosses.

Maybe he chooses to just not show it for us. Oh and its everyone elses fault that he hasn't had a great season. You sound like Harold or his agent

[SammyKojoe]

With regards to the nutmegs, I was making the point that he is skillful and confident on his game. He is very fast but lacks the correct decision making, which can be coached. He is physically a beast and is very difficult to take the ball off. His crossing is scarily consistent and if we had smarter players in the box (other than Austin) we would be seeing plenty more goals from his crosses.

Am ignoring the nutmegs as its ridiculous. Usain Bolt is very fast but not sure that makes him a great footballer. His crossing often goes straight to a defender or the keeper - with no QPR player anywhere near it. Especially yesterday. The ones he has got right a fair few games ago have been peaches but he offers little else and you need more than the odd good cross to play at the top level.

[Rangers77]

Green, Isla, Caulker (Would make most bottom half sides), Phillips, Fer, Sandro, Vargas, Austin. Easily get into a lot of teams in this league.

[nasser95]

Maybe he chooses to just not show it for us. Oh and its everyone elses fault that he hasn't had a great season. You sound like Harold or his agent

What are you even on? Just because I praise some of the stuff our players do, all of a sudden I must be their agent or something? Get off it mate, there is a reason that he came back and got 4 assists in a row. His crosses always go in and around the areas where players should be. Unfortunately with bobby up front and austin tracking back, we lack people in the box to receive those balls.

[Timmy the Doc]

Yesterday, from start to almost finish, I thought that if we could just replace Hoilett and Zamora with better players, we would easily win this.

[SammyKojoe]

What are you even on? Just because I praise some of the stuff our players do, all of a sudden I must be their agent or something? Get off it mate, there is a reason that he came back and got 4 assists in a row. His crosses always go in and around the areas where players should be. Unfortunately with bobby up front and austin tracking back, we lack people in the box to receive those balls. Take the chance zamora had from a yard out with a header, look who crossed it in, Matty Phillips. But if the player on the end of it can't put it in, then we have no chance.

Ah fella if you are going to use examples at least get them right. Made yourself look a bit silly here. The header in the first half yesterday where Zamora missed it from a yard was crossed by Austin. Everyone in the ground was saying had it been the other way round Austin would have scored.

[nasser95]

Yesterday, from start to almost finish, I thought that if we could just replace Hoilett and Zamora with better players, we would easily win this.

Exactly, I honestly feel like the players have talent, bar those two. It was clear with the way the game played out that because of their involvement, we wouldn't get much down that side.

Also, mentioned to the bloke next to me that no matter how poor Sandro was, as soon as he came off, the game was lost.