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Fernandes ought to resign the Chairmanship
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostIm begging he leaves, fans and supporters of this club who want him out dont deserve his benevolence anyway. Can you lot do a 'tony out' demo if you go to the games, i guarantee you one million per cent they will all up and leave and you can have your rangers , your buckets, your lower league football and handouts from lee cook back.
Honestly believe the team i follow cos i lived next door has got some of the moaniest, highest expectations and ungratefulness of any club in the country, if not world.
Oh and lucky to go up my ar se hole. Anyone whom says that i wholly question their support for qpr.
In response to the more sensible reservations expressed - I'm not suggesting that TF should sell the club, simply that he should step down from the Chairmanship and appoint a CEO/Chairman with a proven track record. There are plenty out there. As I said, a very likeable guy who is excellent at PR, as demonstrated by the number of fans who still support him, but time and time again he has shown himself up to be utterly inept. Somebody could write a PhD thesis on his incompetence at QPR.Last edited by The Godfather; 18-03-2015, 04:25 PM.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostMaybe you could buy rangers when this baying hate mob really kick the witch hunt off and chase out 'the crook'.
Obviously Nasser can be stat man/PR spin guru as he is doing an amazing job so far. I always look forward to the heat map after another defeat and he is still trying to convince us that we might stay up, so he has proved he is loyal to the cause.
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Originally posted by Hove Ranger View PostAnd get a few off here to help me run it?
Obviously Nasser can be stat man/PR spin guru as he is doing an amazing job so far. I always look forward to the heat map after another defeat and he is still trying to convince us that we might stay up, so he has proved he is loyal to the cause.Last edited by Kevin Mcleod; 18-03-2015, 04:39 PM.
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Originally posted by Shepherds Mush View PostI support us fully but I would definitely say we were lucky to go up - no two ways about it.
Lucky to beat wigan over two legs?
Lucky to not let derby score a single goal with ten men?
Lucky to score a goal with ten men to win in the 90?
All well lucky mush. Thats some proper luck eh.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostEven i know we are down but im not about to blame an overly generous chairman just trying to do his best to make us a premiership regular though. We will be back up next season imho and if im totally honestly being a yo yo club for a little while is actually very beneficial and exciting for the supporters. Nobody who loves qpr would ever change our 'lucky' promotion and that day at wembley and would not love that again next may.
Its only that if he had achieved immediate success with us, we would be singing his name as a legend etc. So surely because we have failed pretty miserably in the prem shouldn't we be criticising him equally?
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Originally posted by Hove Ranger View PostI agree in parts. So do you think none of the blame should be directed at TF? Or are you saying that even though he has got it wrong so far, because he has thrown a lot of money at us we should be more forgiving of him?
Its only that if he had achieved immediate success with us, we would be singing his name as a legend etc. So surely because we have failed pretty miserably in the prem shouldn't we be criticising him equally?
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostIm begging he leaves, fans and supporters of this club who want him out dont deserve his benevolence anyway. Can you lot do a 'tony out' demo if you go to the games, i guarantee you one million per cent they will all up and leave and you can have your rangers , your buckets, your lower league football and handouts from lee cook back.
Honestly believe the team i follow cos i lived next door has got some of the moaniest, highest expectations and ungratefulness of any club in the country, if not world.
Oh and lucky to go up my ar se hole. Anyone whom says that i wholly question their support for qpr.
Awww are those nasty people being nasty to "uncle" Tony fellaWe Are The People.....
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Forgive TF for what, what has the guy actually done, would any owner in all reality faired any better at a club like ours ? He employed 2 managers that 90% of Premiership clubs would have employed, the witch hunt on here is ridiculous. Yes he is a bit naïve football wise but he certainly isn't the Devil reincarnated that some are portraying him to be............he has all good intentions just hasn't executed them very well but talking about him in the way some of you are, is almost laughable and almost willing him to fail. If he suddenly turned us round and we started winning cups and getting into Europe I honestly believe half of you would be disappointed that he didn't fail again.
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Originally posted by Kit View PostForgive TF for what, what has the guy actually done, would any owner in all reality faired any better at a club like ours ? He employed 2 managers that 90% of Premiership clubs would have employed, the witch hunt on here is ridiculous. Yes he is a bit naïve football wise but he certainly isn't the Devil reincarnated that some are portraying him to be............he has all good intentions just hasn't executed them very well but talking about him in the way some of you are, is almost laughable and almost willing him to fail. If he suddenly turned us round and we started winning cups and getting into Europe I honestly believe half of you would be disappointed that he didn't fail again.
The only reason TF and Co are involved is because they want to make money out of OOC and if they don't get that their interest will soon wane
In all fairness not all our problems are down to TF a lot were there before he came in , the problem is the club is still the same club he bought 4 years ago but now the club is 200 million in debt and looking at another relegation and will more than likely be shafted by the Football League for FFP.
Its about time the fans questioned how the club is being runLast edited by Rangersw12; 18-03-2015, 05:36 PM.We Are The People.....
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Originally posted by Rangersw12 View PostWell Southampton and Swansea are similar sized clubs and they seem to fair quite well with decent owners
The only reason TF and Co are involved is because they want to make money out of OOC and if they don't get that their interest will soon wane
In all fairness not all our problems are down to TF a lot were there before he came in , the problem is the club is still the same club he bought 4 years ago but now the club is 200 million in debt and looking at another relegation and will more than likely be shafted by the Football League for FFP.
Its about time the fans questioned how the club is being run
Good post and i think the tide is turning against Uncle Bungle. On twitter and other rangers forums he is getting plenty. He'll be tweeting about the ground/academy/training complex soon i bet
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Originally posted by Rangersw12 View PostWell Southampton and Swansea are similar sized clubs and they seem to fair quite well with decent owners
The only reason TF and Co are involved is because they want to make money out of OOC and if they don't get that their interest will soon wane
In all fairness not all our problems are down to TF a lot were there before he came in , the problem is the club is still the same club he bought 4 years ago but now the club is 200 million in debt and looking at another relegation and will more than likely be shafted by the Football League for FFP.
Its about time the fans questioned how the club is being run
Swansea are a long time project similar to which the club are now trying to emulate, so only time will tell if we can establish ourselves in a similar mould, although like any clubs our size its whether they can keep it going, Wigan, Fulham, Reading etc etc
We all want success and questioning the Owner will always happen when things don't go well on the pitch but some of what is being written and what I perceive as being hoped for is where questioning oversteps that mark.
I have seen a lot worse than TF down at Rangers and that is why I don't wish TF away too quickly and I think he is a good man and he doesn't deserve 'some' of the criticism he is being given.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostLucky to get in the play offs by winning enough games over a whole season?
Lucky to beat wigan over two legs?
Lucky to not let derby score a single goal with ten men?
Lucky to score a goal with ten men to win in the 90?
All well lucky mush. Thats some proper luck eh.
Lucky not to give away a pen after Dunne's clumsy challenge in the box in the PO final - check
Lucky to score and win a game with 1 shot on target - check
Walked away from Wembley wondering how did we do that - check
Lucky our 1 goalscorer wasn't out for longer - check
Lucky we did all the work in the first half of the season - check
Lucky we could see off most games by a single goal - check
Used up all our luck last season, which is why we don't seem to have any this season!
Add to that the fact we got soundly beaten on a number of occasions without really convincingly beating anyone then yeah...in my opinion we were lucky to get promotion.
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