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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View Post
    Good post Godfather.

    Lovely guy, shite chairman.

    Richard always comes with the question to EVERY post, who do you want? It's nothing to do with who we want. We are not the decision makers & we are not privy to who's available & competent to do the job, so silly question. I think we all want someone who's going to make the best decisions for QPR, not put us £200m in debt preferably.
    Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
    Agreed. I would love TF to stay as an investor but he should resign chairmanship now... His willingness to keep Redknapp for so long did it for me.


    This. Stay on the board but give the chairmanship to someone a little more hands on and a lot more ruthless.

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    • #17
      I got a feeling he will promptly resign if we get relegated now.
      But it will be two years too late if you ask me.
      Banning people is no longer my hobby,
      but take a look at my photo blog:

      http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

      How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
      http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View Post
        Same with Hughes. Incompetent & costly decisions.

        Tries to be Mr Loyal & ends up getting farked over, a la Redknapp walking out on him after declaring his loyalty & trust in him to the world. Looks very silly now. Need someone to make them decisions promptly & correctly.
        I'm not sure his ego will allow him to stand down.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
          I'm not sure his ego will allow him to stand down.
          That is my worry too..

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          • #20
            His answer has been to employ a club legend as stand in chairman for when he is not around.

            The modern day chairman of a premier league club needs to be hands on and around the club 24/7 to deal with everything.
            Just because you are owner does not mean you HAVE to be chairman.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
              His answer has been to employ a club legend as stand in chairman for when he is not around.

              The modern day chairman of a premier league club needs to be hands on and around the club 24/7 to deal with everything.
              Just because you are owner does not mean you HAVE to be chairman.

              He appointed Les cos he thought it would look good to the fans and get him some love. Lets face it Les has no experience in the role and is really a part time coach. It might work out as the best thing ever but yet again it is another huge gamble to appoint someone with no experience to a key role at the club. Dont get me wrong i love Les but i do worry that Fernandes appointed him more for how it looks rather than what Les can bring to the role of DOF. Fernandes has gambled on many things in his 4 year chairmanship and nearly all of them he has lost.
              Last edited by vblockranger; 18-03-2015, 10:44 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
                On the surface seems very ungrateful but when reality kicks in this post is bang on the money .
                Should he resign yes or learn fast that he is to blame for the clubs wasted oppertunity and money because of his insatable desire to lsten to any hanger on
                I think you and the op are correct. He is a decent guy and I like his intentions, but sadly his actions are a large portion of the reason why QPR are in this mess and have lost so much money over the last 4 years.

                He is not learning from the errors he and his Board have made and I am beginning to think that he never will.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                  He appointed Les cos he thought it would look good to the fans and get him some love. Lets face it Les has no experience in the role and is really a part time coach. It might work out as the best thing ever but yet again it is another huge gamble to appoint someone with no experience to a key role at the club. Dont get me wrong i love Les but i do worry that Fernandes appointed him more for how it looks rather than what Les can bring to the role of DOF. Fernandes has gambled on many things in his 4 year chairmanship and nearly all of them he has lost.
                  Took the words right of my mouth. Another highly risky appointment of someone with zilch prior experience in what is probably the most important position at the club.

                  Furthermore, his latest appointment of the new CEO also looks extremely dubious of who is again, someone else with zero footballing experience and who failed at Caterham.

                  3 years down the line TF shows no sign of having learnt from his mistakes because he's still repeating the same ones.

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                  • #24
                    Don't disagree with all the comments but have to say in my view his main failing has been to trust two very experienced and respected Premiership managers. Most Chairmen would have done the same. Keep beak out and let them get on with managing the footballing side. They are footballing people he isn't.

                    Very easy to be wise after the event but logically if you have any kind of business you employ people in areas of that business where they have a specialism. That is what he did and he recruited on the surface very wisely for those roles.

                    Off the pitch efforts continue to get us new training facilities and a new ground. Recognising that the previous way of doing things hasn't worked he has changed the footballing structure and Phil Beard has gone as well. Les may lack some dedicated experience but he seems a canny guy and has a genuine passion for the club which most DOF would not have so I can see the sense in this appointment. Far more likely to stick around and be motivated to do well, experience will come.

                    The board have written off £60m of debt owed to them.

                    One of the saving graces of the last few years has been the owners. If they stick around we should have a good future and be able to put the disappointments of the last 2-3 years behind us. Will not happen overnight but we are far luckier than a lot of clubs with our prospects for the future. Yes there have been mistakes but without them we could easily be in League One and struggling to continue to exist.

                    Besides since when has supporting QPR been pleasurable! We should be used to suffering.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                      Very easy to be wise after the event but logically if you have any kind of business you employ people in areas of that business where they have a specialism. That is what he did and he recruited on the surface very wisely for those roles.
                      Disagree. Beard was a dreadfully naive appointment. He was precisely not what you have just described, in a role which was vitally important.

                      Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
                      I think you and the op are correct. He is a decent guy and I like his intentions, but sadly his actions are a large portion of the reason why QPR are in this mess and have lost so much money over the last 4 years.
                      "The road to hell etc..."

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                        Very easy to be wise after the event but logically if you have any kind of business you employ people in areas of that business where they have a specialism
                        Thats not what he has done when he appointed Beard and now Les though is it Fox?. Two key roles.That doesnt take hindsight. Pretty easy to appoint a football man as a manager and throw money at them but seems he finds it difficult to be ruthless and put an end to something. Too many gambles that have failed and too many mistakes, let someone else have a go.

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                        • #27
                          I think you can look at Fernandes' tenure in two ways, both of which are hapless.

                          However, while the first view sees him as a chairman whose poor appointments and failure to act in a timely fashion has seen this club lurch from one debacle to another, the second view sees him as the same but with one crucial difference - that he's finally working out how to do it.

                          The decision not to fund any more players more Redknapp can also be seen in two ways: that it was a positive sign of a more ruthless intent to curb the profligacy that has haunted this club since he took over, or yet another mistake, where the opportunity to keep us up depended on the signing of necessary players.

                          I suppose there is a middle position that he's pretty useless AND unlucky, but his willingness to keep going and keep funding will pay off in the end.

                          If you take the second view that he's finally worked it out, then he's worth persevering with. If you take the first view, then he's an unlikely pariah who we need to get shot of. But the question does remain, even though people say it's not relevant to the OP, who will replace him? If the Mittals get cold feet and TF pulls out, we would be left in dire straits, wouldn't we?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View Post
                            Good post Godfather.

                            Lovely guy, shite chairman.

                            Richard always comes with the question to EVERY post, who do you want? It's nothing to do with who we want. We are not the decision makers & we are not privy to who's available & competent to do the job, so silly question. I think we all want someone who's going to make the best decisions for QPR, not put us £200m in debt preferably.


                            Just because we cannot suggest who should take over from TF, doesn't mean his tenure so far hasn't been a failure. And even if we suggested someone, what difference does it make?

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                            • #29
                              Mark Devlin is the man (former QPR and current Brentford CEO)... Sure he would love to come back and is just the #rightsort going forward as is well aware of club hustory etc

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Awin View Post
                                Mark Devlin is the man (former QPR and current Brentford CEO)... Sure he would love to come back and is just the #rightsort going forward as is well aware of club hustory etc
                                Apparently a failed CEO with little football knowledge from the Caterham team has been appointed, so no lessons learned there either.

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